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0x6a74: My parents grew up in Utah during the Depression -- one Mormon the other not. They had very different stories about surviving those times. LDS can define community rather narrowly.

No doubt... and that is a conspicuous flaw in their welfare design.

I find very interesting the fact that a deeply conservative community has an essential component of socialism in the core fabric of their society. AFAIK, no one ever questions the "rightness" of this. Mormons everywhere appear to accept that this is what every community should do. It is a "church" function, but since there is no inherent separation between church and state in Mormonism, it is also a "state" function. The tithe of the church is used as a tax to promote the common good, and especially to support those who are too poor to feed themselves. No one (again, AFAIK) ever questions the restriction in personal liberty implied by this arrangement.

This phenomenon supports my belief that true conservatives will support whatever is given to them by tradition and culture, even if it is highly socialist and counter to libertarian principles.

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