+1 on "bloated" and "sitting in a tub" and "rear visibility"But what would I know? I've only driven it. If I'd designed it or had to sell it I might feel differently. -- KennyOThanks. :)Part of my job was to represent the customer and that included visibility, comfort and overall accommodation of people in the car. As you might expect, that frequently put me at odds with the Studio folks as well as management.I didn't always win (in fact, I frequently lost!), but I did my best. What the Studio wants over-rides such details as visibility and comfort these days.... In the past, there was often a shift too far in the other direction, leading to bland blobs like the Ford Five Hundred.It's difficult to achieve a wonderful balance.Rob
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