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Author: voelkels Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 55855  
Subject: Re: speaking of health benefits--food for though Date: 4/15/2008 7:40 AM
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“We can measure such small amounts that the evidence of damage, often sighted, is way out of proportion to the normal usage. Lab animals were/are given super doses of chemical/biological agent just to get a response to measure the effect.

The questionable chemical, quite often must be used in such massive amounts, in the real world, would kill anyone trying to consume that much material, daily, outright. “

Goodness gracious -- what are your sources for this. This sure doesn't jibe with the data I come across.

For the last 10 or 9 years before I retired, I was the company’s “Environmental Engineer”, since I had degrees in both chemistry and engineering. One of my duties every morning was to scan the Federal Register online for items of interest to the company. Other items, that were of interest to me, I would also print out. One of these items was the results of research done on rats that was used to justify banning the use of phenolphthalein as a laxative. The result of the research was to prove that feeding phenolphthalein to rats caused them to produce bladder cancer. Using the data in the studies, I calculated that the average human would have to consume something like an excess of 2,200 Ex-Lax pills a day for over three years to have the same effect. The government was asking for comments from interested parties. I suggested to my boss that he forward a copy of the item and my calculations to PETA (no not People Eating Tasty Animals, dats MY group) and let them comment on it. ;-)

My mother was a great reader of Prevention Magazine. After I graduated from college, one time she gave me an article titled something like “Magnesium Protects You from Heart Attacks”. The conclusion of the article was that eating supplements of dolomite (a “natural” metamorphic rock containing calcium and magnesium carbonate) would protect you from heart attacks. The author cited references to a study reported in one of the scientific journals. I drove up to the Rutgers Library of Science & Medicine to check out the original article. It turned out that the rats in the study were being given magnesium intravenously. They were then stressed by loud noises, bright flashing lights, etc., etc. It was found that fewer of the rats given the magnesium died of heart failure than those in the control group but the excess magnesium had the result of leaching calcium from the bones resulting in excess bone fractures. How that research proves the author’s conclusion that eating supplements of dolomite would protect you from heart attacks is beyond me. ;-(

In the same issue there was an article by a native-American lady with a degree from a university that I never heard of. That article concluded that before being forced to eat a white man’s diet, heart attacks were rare and cancer was completely unknown among the native population of North America. I pointed out to my mother that the average life span of a native American before eating the white man’s diet was probably around 40 or 35 years, and the usual cause of death was starvation or a severe case of lead poisoning caused by the U.S. Calvary or by other Tribes. I also pointed out that if you can’t diagnose cancer by laboratory testing it would be completely unknown (“Ugh, died by bad spirits, him.“)

C.J.V. - mother didn’t give me any more Prevention Magazine articles to read after dat, her
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