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Author: beccapooka Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore)
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Subject: Changes in the Sun Date: 1/9/08 4:37 PM
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I found this interesting enough to pass along. My husband mentioned this to me yesterday and sent the link today. When he told me I said, "Well, I guess we'd better hurry up the whole global warming process." Obviously, I was being facetious, but I can imagine that there will be people who will deny the global warming issues based on the above information. Of course, I don't really expect it to make the 6:00 news any time real soon.

Rebecca

http://www.spaceandscience.net/id16.html

“We today confirm the recent announcement by NASA that there are historic and important changes taking place on the sun’s surface. This will have only one outcome - a new climate change is coming that will bring an extended period of deep cold to the planet. This is not however a unique event for the planet although it is critically important news to this and the next generations. It is but the normal sequence of alternating climate changes that has been going on for thousands of years. Further according to our research, this series of solar cycles are so predictable that they can be used to roughly forecast the next series of climate changes many decades in advance. I have verified the accuracy of these cycles’ behavior over the last 1,100 years relative to temperatures on Earth, to well over 90%.”

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When asked about what this will mean to the average person on the street, Casey was firm. “The last time this particular cycle regenerated was over 200 years ago. I call it the “Bi-Centennial Cycle” solar cycle. It took place between 1793 and 1830, the so-called Dalton Minimum, a period of extreme cold that resulted in what historian John D. Post called the ‘last great subsistence crisis.’ With that cold came massive crops losses, food riots, famine and disease. I believe this next climate change will be much stronger and has the potential to once more cause widespread crop losses globally with the resultant ill effects. The key difference for this next Bi-Centennial Cycle’s impact versus the last is that we will have over 8 billion mouths to feed in the next coldest years where as we had only 1 billion the last time. Among other effects like social and economic disruption, we are facing the real prospect of the ‘perfect storm of global food shortages’ in the next climate change. In answer to the question, everyone on the street will be affected.”


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Author: benjd25 Big red star, 1000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 255762 of 322957
Subject: Re: Changes in the Sun Date: 1/9/08 4:51 PM
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Their 'about us' page says they are advocating a 'relational cycle theory.' I can't find any such thing in wikipedia and googling 'relational cycle theory climate' and related terms gives me very little. This seems like more of a pet theory or quackery. Dunno, though.

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Author: crassfool Big gold star, 5000 posts Feste Award Nominee! Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 255773 of 322957
Subject: Re: Changes in the Sun Date: 1/9/08 7:10 PM
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benjd25 says

Their 'about us' page says they are advocating a 'relational cycle theory.' I can't find any such thing in wikipedia and googling 'relational cycle theory climate' and related terms gives me very little. This seems like more of a pet theory or quackery. Dunno, though.


See comments here:

http://www.bautforum.com/general-science/68846-who-ssrc-what...

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Author: flyerboys Big red star, 1000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 255776 of 322957
Subject: Re: Changes in the Sun Date: 1/9/08 7:56 PM
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Thanks benjd25 and crassfool for tracking this bogality down.

We today confirm the recent announcement by NASA that there are historic and important changes taking place on the sun’s surface. This will have only one outcome - a new climate change is coming that will bring an extended period of deep cold to the planet.

Their use of NASA as a jumpboard into their bogusness is so typical. As has been pointed out in this thread and elsewhere on this board, there are very wealthy interests pouring money into propagating POV's that are known to be false. Often there is a connection with religious bogusness, more frequently the real connection behind the scenes is a financial stake that is being threatened by the expansion of knowledge to more people.

These people are purposefully poisoning public discourse today.

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Author: benjd25 Big red star, 1000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 255777 of 322957
Subject: Re: Changes in the Sun Date: 1/9/08 7:59 PM
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I think we would have to ask some of the experts over at realclimate.org to get an informed opinion.

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