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Subject:  Re: Collateral taken Date:  9/2/2011  4:40 PM
Author:  JAFO31 Number:  113894 of 124587

ncredbear: <<<With the economic climate, I placed $20,000 in a CD that I pledged as collateral for a bank loan for my brother and his partner's business. This was 3 years ago. The businees continued to suffer and they were unable to keep up the loan payments. 2 months ago the bank took about $15,000 of the CD to cover the loan. Can I show this as a loss on my taxes? If so what is the proper way to do so? This assumes my brother and partner do not repay me any of the money, which I doubt will happen anytime in the next several years, if at all.>>>

ptheland: "Sounds like a non-business bad debt. On your tax return, it is reported as a short-term capital loss. There's an additional statement you need to attach to your tax return when claiming a non-business bad debt. Publication 550 has the details on that statement. http://www.irs.gov/publications/p550/index.html "

Peter - our link confused me.

First it contains the following text:

"Deductible nonbusiness bad debts. To be deductible, nonbusiness bad debts must be totally worthless. You cannot deduct a partly worthless nonbusiness debt.

Genuine debt required. A debt must be genuine for you to deduct a loss. A debt is genuine if it arises from a debtor-creditor relationship based on a valid and enforceable obligation to repay a fixed or determinable sum of money.

Loan or gift. For a bad debt, you must show there