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Subject:  Re: Too true to be funny Date:  10/16/2011  6:41 PM
Author:  PuddinHead42 Number:  9430 of 9954

That cartoon reminds me of the Harlem Success Academy, the kids going to that charter school had all the problems listed in the cartoon, at high rates no doubt. They carved out a piece in the Harlem public school and took kids from the public school. So same kids, same facilities. Now those kids CRUSH their former peers. I just don't understand why it is so hard to do this. How can you take the same students in the same building and make them perform so much better for less cost. What could possibly be the difference?

There are a number of links, here is a good starter.

In a comparison of HSA 1 (serving K–4) and the noncharter P.S. 149 (serving pre-K–8), which share a building, an observer found charter students more attentive, charter teachers required to meet with the principal after hours when that's voluntary on the noncharter side even with extra pay, and charter students outperforming noncharter students. Among third graders, while almost no charter student was below grade level, no noncharter student was above grade level. This is in spite of class size being about one or two more per class in the charter school. HSA 1 spends $18,378 yearly per student, versus an estimated $19,358 for the noncharter side.[12]
The N.Y.C. Department of Education surveys parents and teachers, and, for 6th grade and higher, students, in every school every year about qualities of the school. Comparisons are possible where response rates are reasonably high. NYC School Survey results are published.[30]
One organization gives HSA its highest rating and says a small sample of parents do, too.[31]
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