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Subject:  Re: Cardinal Carlo Martini Date:  10/1/2012  2:19 PM
Author:  Frydaze1 Number:  183080 of 199100

I was indeed missing YOUR definition of morality ;-)

So you're saying that even my definition isn't universal?

I used but I'm willing to go with your link.
2.normatively to refer to a code of conduct that, given specified conditions, would be put forward by all rational persons.

The problem there is that you're going to run into a situation where you define the other as irrational *because* they disagree with your position on a specific moral. Rape is a great example of that. I think that any rational person would say that rape is immoral. And then we're going to find many examples of rape throughout history, committed by people who we consider irrational *because* they break what we consider the "correct" moral code.

You can see the circular nature of this, right?
How do we know our code is correct? Because any rational person would agree with it.
What about this guy who didn't agree with it? He's irrational.
How do you know he's irrational? Because he broke the code.

You can't get anywhere with that.

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