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Subject:  Re: Cardinal Carlo Martini Date:  10/2/2012  2:51 PM
Author:  bdhinton Number:  183154 of 199074

So first of all, cut the crap with your implication that because I'm an atheist I'm okay with raping little girls.

But I didn't say that. Don't jump to conclusions that I think you are immoral or something, or that atheists can't be moral. I don't believe that at all.

I acknowledged that you believe for you, it is wrong. But when you say it is based subjectively, you acknowledge that it is a matter of opinion, and that there is no moral law that applies objectively to humans being broken when someone else rapes. They are merely breaking the law in your head.

What I'm having a hard time understanding is why you feel that the law in your head should be binding on others? What makes it better than their law?

I do believe my moral code is the right one. I'd do more than condemn another society; I would do my best to change their morals to match my own. Because I believe mine are right, and anyone breaking my moral code is immoral.

Couldn't Fred Phelps say the same thing?

Knowing something is subjective doesn't stop me from feeling very strongly about it. Or from wanting my moral code to be universally *applied*.

I agree totally. I don't deny your strong feelings about it. Dan Dennett, philosopher, says that evolution has foisted that feeling on you, and it has no deeper meaning.

I disagree. I think you are in touch with something intuitive about morality that is implanted on your heart from a different source.

You have other points I want to address, but it will have to wait
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