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Subject:  Re: Cardinal Carlo Martini Date:  10/11/2012  10:03 AM
Author:  bdhinton Number:  183411 of 199081

I'm currently agnostic about miracles and the bodily resurrection. I don’t know if they happened, but they are not the kind of thing that does usually happen.

Resurrections don't usually happen. Not so sure about healing miracles. I've read too many accounts of Christians praying for healing for their Muslim or Hindu neighbors (in Africa and India, for example), and seeing whole families and even villages coming to faith in Christ after they witness the healing.

A lot is going on in the world that we don't see.

I cannot take as proof the written accounts from decades after the events by people clearly with an agenda. It might be evidence, but it’s not proof.

I'd never say there is proof. But the resurrection was being proclaimed within weeks of the event. And Paul's account is chock full of non-Greek elements that attest to an early, Aramaic source. Proof that it wasn't a late development, but was believed almost immediately.

I've yet to see any naturalistic account of the accepted facts surrounding the resurrection (empty tomb, the post-resurrection appearances, and the origin of the Christian faith) that is not ad-hoc and less plausible than the resurrection hypothesis itself.

Have you read Craig's "Reasonable Faith" yet? Probably the best book on the case for Christian faith I've read yet.

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