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Subject:  Re: Dead Dishwasher Date:  12/13/2012  5:52 PM
Author:  LQu Number:  869571 of 885537

when the salesman said there'd be a $250 charge for delivery and installation! The guy explained that we needed to have a Master Plumber involved to pull a permit. MDH said, "No way." We walked out of the store...

That fee sounds overpadded. You do have to pull a permit in St. Louis, but you don't have to have Sears do it. You can pull it yourself. Then you know it definitely has been pulled. And a "Master Plumber" is not mandatory, AFA I can tell from the requirements. Correctly installing so it meets code and passes inspection would be.

http://www.stltoday.com/business/columns/savvy-consumer/dish...
"...Sure enough, a spokesman for the St. Louis County’s public works department cited the same code. A dishwasher is “a plumbing appliance,” said David Wrone, and it requires a $63 permit and an inspection after it has been installed...."I would also suggest that homeowners take the initiative and inform their installers that they’re cognizant of the permit requirement and that they’ll take all necessary action to ensure that their install is performed to code," Wrone said.

http://ww5.stlouisco.com/scripts/epermit/faq.cfm
Examples of the types of permits that can be typically requested via the E-PERMITTING SYSTEM are as follows.....:

* Fixture replacement - same location and fixture count (Replace Like with Like)....


St. Louis Plumbing Code (search for "dishwasher"):
https://bulk.resource.org/codes.gov/mo_stlouis_plumbing.pdf

He's seriously considering taking the thing home with us if it fits in the Jetta wagon and having #1 son help him install the thing himself.

Dishwashers are lightweight. We've easily been able to fit them in our Subaru wagons. We've always installed our own, as they've been replacement installs. It's not overly complicated if you're handy & familiar with plumbing/electrical.

Good luck!

Laura
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