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Subject:  Re: Here's why Libs don't get it Date:  1/9/2013  11:38 PM
Author:  MadCapitalist Number:  665491 of 876060

The liberal conception of "rights" equals the "right" to enslave others by taking the product of their efforts and by defining what they *must* do.

Nonsense. The OP suggests the right to bear arms comes from God himself, not the Constitution. You aver that you don't even believe in God, yet the right to bear arms comes from natural law.

Yes, natural law. Consider the laws of physics. Does it matter whether they came from God or not? They are what they are.

Some people believe that God created the laws of physics. Maybe, but they exist independent of anyone saying that they are laws of physics. Likewise, natural rights exist without a government saying whether they exist or not.

And you can't deny that liberals believe that rights are whatever the majority says they are. If the majority says that you have the right to force others to give you their property, then that is a "right." If you have a "right" to health care, then you have a "right" to force others to provide it for you. Now THAT is nonsense.
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