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Subject:  Re: Here's why Libs don't get it Date:  1/10/2013  1:51 PM
Author:  lowstudent Number:  665586 of 737106

They are violating the rights of their people. It shouldn't be surprising that governments deprive their citizens of rights illegitimately, that's the default situation throughout history. That doesn't mean it is correct or even desireable, however. We should strive to do better, and often have (moreso than anyone else arguably).

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By the what I see as more than slightly skewed reasoning the person you are debating with would seem to be saying that Jews did not have the right to life in Germany during the late 30 and early 40s

Rights transcend government, but a decent government protects rights, while a terrible one violates them and a merely bad one does not understand what they actually are.
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