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Subject:  Re: Electronic dog collars Date:  1/23/2013  4:25 PM
Author:  0x6a74 Number:  416881 of 507826

So, just to be clear, you don't see large gains in energy efficiency as something that is going to decrease pollution?

seems to me there's four things -- connected,
but sometimes conflated

sometimes making one better makes another
also better, sometimes makes it worse

pollution-pollution: poisonous st*** like
acid rain, 'heavy' metals, radioactive waste:
short term evil, long term maybe not as bad as---

greenhouse pollution ... the greenhouse gases & climate
change: short term No Problem, long term serious

sustainability ...

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