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Subject:  Re: Never say die. Attack on Obama(care) Date:  10/31/2013  2:20 PM
Author:  Stonewashed Number:  1908047 of 2203910

'm more upset by the people who failed to do the ACA job right. The ones fighting Obamacare have never supported the law, and have every right to try to advocate for its repeal, if they like. But there's no excuse for people who are ostensibly deeply committed supporters of the law to simply screw up like this, and possibly undermine what other folks have worked so hard to achieve through a failure of basic care.


Here, here. That's the most cogent thing anyone has said so far.:)

That said, after talking to a really good agent, who really knows his stuff (and is going to help me weed this thing out), he more or less said the same thing. Unfortunately for him he is absolutely bogged down by not being able to do access ANY information about the different plans.

What he more or less advised us to do with what information he does have and his understanding of the law is, there will be absolutely no reason for any company to want to go on an exchange if (1)their employees average more than 50,000 a year because the only reason to do so is for the tax credit the company would receive, if they were paying the premiums. Any company whose employees average more than that don't get the tax credit (2) No individual would want to go to the exchange for the same reason. The rates are what they are. There really aren't that many companies playing this game, just different names of the same companies.

For us, since our policy does not expire until April is to chill and call him back in Feb. The people who are really in dire straights right now are the ones with Dec 31 expirations and he is absolutely powerless to help them.
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