Also Chrysler. In that case, the complexity added by thermal expansion of the ATF requires a dipstick measurment, an ATF temperature measurement, and a graph that shows the proper fluid level vs temp line. This must have come about from shrinking the size of the pan for packaging and weight reductions.My Charger has a fill tube with a simple screw-in plug. I check mine with an aftermarket dipstick after an all-night cool down so that the ATF temp is the same as the local air temp. It hasn't needed a top-up in 120,000 miles, so perhaps the "lifetime fill" claim isn't too far from reality.Neil The Commodore/G8 only has 25K miles on it after almost 3-1/2 years. I know, I should drive the car a lot more. It really is a joy to drive.On my list of upgrades I want to do:1) Pontiac G8 GXP LS3 trans cooler (bolt in)2) Deep sump oil pan from the LS3 Camaro (bolts right on)3) After market tranny dipstickNever mind at 7K to 8K miles a year and living in a garage the G8 should last 20 years (and then any failures will likely be from plastics giving up or failed electronics, not because of worn mechanical bits) I figure all three of these are insurance policies to a long, happy life.The Saturn on the other hand I hope can limp along until 2015. I see either a Buick Verano turbo with a manual or Gen II Chevy Volt in my future. My new commute is only 5 miles one way.
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