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Subject: Re: Ashes to ashes, ... Date: 7/15/2014 10:31 AM
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An intelligent origin is by definition supernatural.

Don't mean to be dense but how is an intelligent origin more supernatural than a nonintelligent origin? In both cases something stands outside of nature to produce nature. I think you are expanding the definition of supernatural beyond what is normal.

Put it another way. Both intelligent and nonintelligent exist in the natural universe. Therefore, both are natural. Origin hypotheses postulate some thing (X) caused the natural universe. I don't see why X being intelligent should be more supernatural than X being nonintelligent.

Because the scientific method excludes unnecessary complexities.

Don't think you have that exactly right. Occam's razor means preference should be given to the hypothesis with the fewest assumptions. In other words, complexity in this case is defined by the number of steps required, not the amount of information contained. In other, other words, no preference is given to a low information explanation over a high information one.
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