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And back to health and medical care, my secret weapon is being a mostly raw food vegan that avoids destructive refined foods. The odds are pretty good DW and I will make it 65 without any major medical issues.

I'm still not understanding how being a raw food vegan or following a Biblical lifestyle (or both) inoculates you from having a car accident. Or being mugged in an alley. Or stepping on a nail and getting tetanus. Any of those can turn in to hundreds of thousands of dollars in costs, as I'm sure you're aware.

I'm all about freedom. The freedom to chose your own path in life regardless of where the path leads, as long as you don't trample others during your journey.

How about that "pre-existing condition" thing? I wasn't "free" in any sense of the word, since no one would insure me. How is that "free"?

ACA is one more stop in a century long struggle of giving the federal gov't more power while reducing the freedom of American citizens. ...We've seen that power destroy people countless times via authoritarian governments throughout history and still do in communist countries today.

I can't help but ask. What freedoms (please be specific) are you lacking? Where is the government trampling your rights, and where is this "authoratianism" manifesting itself? Seriously, I'd like to know.

There will be no freedom to choose. Pre ACA, we had freedom to not participate.

This can't be what you're talking about. As MF has explained, you ALWAYS participated. If you went to a hospital without coverage, the hospital made up the difference by charging other people more. That meant you were forcing others to subsidize you. If you went to the hospital WITH coverage, you were overcharged to make up for the people the hospital served who couldn't pay. That showed up in YOUR bill, and your insurance premiums (which may have been paid by your employer, but it's still money not left over for paychecks.)

Let's be clear. You were never "paying only your own way." You were paying for others one way or another, the ACA attempts to make everyone contribute something to help eliminate the free rider problem. (There is an alternative, of course: tell hospitals to allow people to die on the sidewalk out front if they don't have the money. Not great marketing, but certainly a different approach.)

And when you say "you found the answer", I know it is the answer for *you* and that you are not saying the same answer works for everyone. But I can't help but notice that our society requires solutions to problems that DO work for everyone, or at least as close as we can approach to that goal. So since we had a "free market" health care system which delivers mediocre results at high cost, insurance which refuses to cover 25% of the population, and more free market capitalists pushing ever less healthy food(s) at ever better margins for themselves (and damn the consequences), what is "the answer" for everyone else? Surely it can't be listening to lectures from you and Michelle Obama on the benefits of fruit and vegetables, can it?

You see, things like that make a believer out of you no matter what the naysayers say.

Steve Jobs admitted, just before he died, that he would have lived another decade at least had he "succumbed" to modern medicine, rather than trying to treat his condition with juices and herbs. That's the kind of thing that makes a believer out of me, because he's right. He got sucking into the "natural and holistic" vortex, and died young. Tragedy, that.
 
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