Artimus is a cheapass isn't he! Heh! <g> Nice you brought up Gringo, he was one of the good guys. I noticed Art extended his life expectency recently, i remember a time he said he was dead and gone in 15, and today he said 20, either he got healthier due to the lack of Hostess products or he just gave himself 5 more years due to clean living <g>. ____________________Can't be the Hostess thingEating stuff with chemicals that giver it a shelf life of eternity has to make you live longer. I am pretty sure Twinkies got a bad rap on that one.