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Author: crschoen Big red star, 1000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 5238  
Subject: BCS pondering 4-team playoff Date: 4/26/2012 5:26 PM
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Author: PopeyesAddict Two stars, 250 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 5226 of 5238
Subject: Re: BCS pondering 4-team playoff Date: 7/1/2012 12:50 AM
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I think this is pretty much the ideal, though I worry that they won't hold at 4. I like 4 because I want the minimum number needed to include every team who at the end of the season can legitimately say "We've played the very best season in college football." That is usually 1 to 3 teams. So the fourth gives you insurance and balances out the schedule. There is no way that there are 8 teams who will be able to make that claim. Usually #8 lost two games and/or didn't win their conference.

One of the biggest flaws with the current system* is that you can have 3 very good teams go undefeated and 1 of them gets left out. That happened to Auburn. You could, theoretically, have the same problem with 5 teams, but that is very unlikely. I'm not even sure it's ever happened. So that problem is fixed.

You can still have a team go undefeated and not get a shot at the title. And that will probably happen - which keeps College Football as still the only sport I can think of where that happens. But without expanding the playoffs to 16 teams that can't be fixed.

*So there's been a lot of talk about how NOW we'll have a playoff and that things can be "settled on the field." But really very little has changed. For starters, we've had a playoff since the BCS started. It was just a two-team playoff. Now it will be four. For those who think it's not settled on the field - it still won't be. Teams will play their seasons and then hope that they get picked for the playoffs by a group of judges - same as before. It won't include computers, and the selection committee will work together, instead of in the blind as is done now, but still, if you think it was a beauty contest, it still is.

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Author: crschoen Big red star, 1000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 5227 of 5238
Subject: Re: BCS pondering 4-team playoff Date: 7/2/2012 3:19 PM
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I welcome this change, however I fear that we are merely shifting the argument about which 3rd ranked team got left out to which 5th ranked team got left out. I can easily see a scenario where 4 teams with 1 loss get selected over an unbeaten team from a lower tier conference.

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Author: ziggy29 Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 5228 of 5238
Subject: Re: BCS pondering 4-team playoff Date: 7/2/2012 3:59 PM
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>> I welcome this change, however I fear that we are merely shifting the argument about which 3rd ranked team got left out to which 5th ranked team got left out. I can easily see a scenario where 4 teams with 1 loss get selected over an unbeaten team from a lower tier conference. <<

Pretty much. Below a certain point, though, if you are left out of the top X teams, there's a good chance you have no real argument to claim you are the best.

I still advocate this one: eight teams -- the top 6 conference champions and the top 2 at large bids (not carved in stone; could be 5 and 3). If you can't make it into one of these categories, I don't think you have much of a case for being #1.

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Author: PopeyesAddict Two stars, 250 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 5229 of 5238
Subject: Re: BCS pondering 4-team playoff Date: 7/2/2012 11:07 PM
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I fear that we are merely shifting the argument about which 3rd ranked team got left out to which 5th ranked team got left out.

There will be some of that - I mean look at the NCAA basketball tournament and how every year some teams complain about being left out - but there argument will be weaker. People might agree that they belong in the top 4, but few will think that 5th team should be number 1. Your chances of a split national title drop to 0, and that wasn't true before.

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Subject: Re: BCS pondering 4-team playoff Date: 7/2/2012 11:09 PM
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I fear that we are merely shifting the argument about which 3rd ranked team got left out to which 5th ranked team got left out.

There will be some of that, but their argument will be much weaker. People will undoubtedly believe they have a claim to the top 4, but few will think they should be #1.

I think saying we're merely shifting the argument understates it. What this does is drop the chance for a shared national title to 0.000% and that wasn't true before.

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