Bruce, I didn't try to "humiliate" you. You did that all by yourself in buying MSFT's 5.2's at a premium to par when the least bit of due diligence suggested it was a sucker's buy. You bought what you were shown, rather than what could be found at the time. If you want to be proud of that mistake, then be proud. As to whose board this is, it isn't yours, it isn't mine, and it definitely isn't Lokcocus's (who seems to have departed).What I do contribute to this board, besides some admittedly regrettably controversy, is a way of looking at bond-investing that comes from experience and can't be found in books. Read those reports, or ignore them as you choose. Charlie
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