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C'mon. Be honest. You didn't just toss out a random historical point. You thought it had some relevance to the question of torture, the subject of the discussion.

It is as I said it was. Nothing more.

You're playing the martyr again. No one objects to your point. They merely questioned its relevance.

Mmmm. Not quite.

Are you kidding? In this thread maybe. But I was making fun of your constant use of "fail" as a show stopper.

I use 'Fail' because...left wing 'arguments' (I use that term loosely) are made from it. When someone screws up I explain why.
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