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Hello,

Fidelity sent me a letter in the mail about how my FUSEX (Spartan 500 Index Fund Investor Class) shares are now eligible to be converted to FUSVX (Spartan 500 Index Fund Advantage Class) shares (Advantage Class investment minimum dropped from $100K to $10K), and, as they touted how the expense ratio would now be 0.07% instead of 0.10%, this prompted me to look into Vanguard's current expense ratio. Since VFIAX (Vanguard 500 Index Fund Admiral Shares) is 0.05%, I'm considering moving funds.

Without opening up the S&P 500 vs Total Market index question (which has been debated quite a bit on TMF), I'm wondering if there are any costs to moving from a higher expense ratio fund to a lower one (assuming that the funds are roughly equivalent [S&P 500 to S&P 500, for example])?

I'm really thinking of the discussions around when it's a good idea to re-finance your mortgage and whether to switch from one online bank interest paying account to another, and wondering if there are similar calculations to be made for switching index funds based on expense ratios.

Thanks in advance for your perspective,

KM
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Hello,

Fidelity sent me a letter in the mail about how my FUSEX (Spartan 500 Index Fund Investor Class) shares are now eligible to be converted to FUSVX (Spartan 500 Index Fund Advantage Class) shares (Advantage Class investment minimum dropped from $100K to $10K), and, as they touted how the expense ratio would now be 0.07% instead of 0.10%, this prompted me to look into Vanguard's current expense ratio. Since VFIAX (Vanguard 500 Index Fund Admiral Shares) is 0.05%, I'm considering moving funds.

Without opening up the S&P 500 vs Total Market index question (which has been debated quite a bit on TMF), I'm wondering if there are any costs to moving from a higher expense ratio fund to a lower one (assuming that the funds are roughly equivalent [S&P 500 to S&P 500, for example])?

I'm really thinking of the discussions around when it's a good idea to re-finance your mortgage and whether to switch from one online bank interest paying account to another, and wondering if there are similar calculations to be made for switching index funds based on expense ratios.

Thanks in advance for your perspective,

KM


1. If you're staying with Fidelity I think the cost of the Vanguard fund includes a one time $75 fee by Fidelity. I'm not sure if you're charged that every time you add funds.

2. A difference of .0002 (not converted to percent) between the Fidelity and Vanguard account saves you $20 in lower expenses per $100,000 per year. Good move by Fidelity to lower their own internal expenses.

3. ALL my accounts AT Vanguard save me much more than what Fidelity charges for their S&P 500 index fund (among many other index funds) AND don't charge the $75 fee. BUT, many still find Fidelity offerings and service more to their liking. They are close.

Bob
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Sorry to disappear for a few days right after posting a question. Thanks Bob, that's spot on.

I was thinking of moving the Roth IRAs over to Vanguard, instead of simply buying the Vanguard funds thru Fidelity. And still not sure how long the money would be out of the market, and what the transactional costs would be.

But your right, for less than $20 per year, what is the move worth actually? Probably over the remaining life of my IRA, it would amount to under $1000. Hmmm....

Thanks again,

KM
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Another thing that one should keep in mind is tracking error.

What is the tracking error of each fund.

if the S&P 500 returns - 10%
Vanguard - 9.95%
Fidelity - 9.93%

That can make a difference too.

At one point some of the Vanguard funds had a positive tracking error before expenses.
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