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Subject: Re: Owning a gun Date: 1/21/2013 9:41 PM
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could have sworn it was the Constitution gave me my rights,

Colovion: Absolutely not. You couldn't be more wrong. The Constitution recognizes a pre-existing right to keep and bear arms, it does NOT confer that right upon us.

Colovion, I like how you have read some books and think in this area. In a nutshell - at the time of the writing of the Constitution we spoke of natural rights. This was part of the Age of Reason and natural rights of men were in contrast to the God given rights of Kings that had gone on previously. So this was apart of an evolution in thought.

The term natural rights is a fiction that we made up out of thin air. I will leave your God given rights to you and how you worship, but they are not in the Constitution. If you want to think the constitution was divinely inspired, there is no quarrel with that view. But- there are no natural rights. There are no rights that spring from nature.

Our rights come from a social compact called the Constitution which was voted on and gave us these rights along with the first 10 amendments passed at the first Congress.

Prior to that we had the rights of the confederation, states rights, and almost every state had a bill of rights. We tended to think of our rights as listed because they were listed as the rights of Englishman in the charters of the colonies.
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