I feel that the board is a lot better with his leaving because he was very combative and hated me. Notice that since he left people will talk about individual stocks instead of getting stern reminders that it is not appropriate to talk about individual stocks. I found him very interesting and don't think that over all he was a bad influence idea wise, but he is one of these people who hate me at first glance and I cannot approve. A lot of his chart ideas seem really over the top and to complicated though.
DB is a very controlling person. He always has the RIGHT answer, and one's own opinion is always in need of correction to line up with his.He has a very closed mind.
DB is a very controlling person. He always has the RIGHT answer, and one's own opinion is always in need of correction to line up with his.He has a very closed mind. And he's not around here to trouble you anymore, so what's the point of making these statements about him? I don't frequent this board regularly anymore, so I found it amusing to drop in and see db being discussed.
I, for one, will always be indebted to db for forcing me to learn and read and to think on my own. As far as this board being better with his leaving . . . that's a matter of opinion. I think the CANSLIM board has turned into worthless noise. I don't know what your problem is or what he pointed you at regarding being "hated at first glance" but I think db attempted to make us all stand on our own two feet. Maybe you should go back and reread his postings that affected you so much, and rethink them with a little thicker skin. Have a Merry Christmas!
Notice that since he left people will talk about individual stocks instead of getting stern reminders that it is not appropriate to talk about individual stocks. Maybe I just have selective memory, but I thought he encouraged discussion of specific stocks within a CANSLIM context.
Personally, I find the board almost pointless to read since db left. It used to be a favorite. Now it's just useless to me. Not meant as a slam at anyone here but since people drove db off with personal attacks, I barely read this board anymore.-chris
I too found this board losing direction after DB left. Of course, DB is strict and he wants to control few things. Thats ok to me as long as the board is not missing its direction. We created other boards like IBD, Momentum for specific purpose but we don't use them. We discuss IBD stocks (not necessarily CAN SLIM stocks) here instead of using IBD board. The discussion in dbs_burrow in Yahoo groups definitely healthy and people are presenting nice ideas.Pushparaj
I could not agree more AC. The content of the board reminds me of the chart of a high flying CMGI, which coincidentally is getting the boot from the NDX 100.Who cares what anyone thinks of DB or his teaching/helping methods? The information provided at the Burrow, and the reading list he provided (that I probably would have not known about on my own) are worth a lot of money in lost opportunity cost for those that refuse to further their understanding of trading.Doesnt matter what I think of his methods, all the light bulbs and "A-HA's" that clicked on because of things he said have saved me a lot of money. I attibute a large degree of what I have learned, and the success that has come from that, directly to DbPhoenix.Oh well, another high-flyer bites the dust. Its a shame.Prestone
<<all the light bulbs and "A-HA's">>Okay, one more post now that some old members have returned. ;)I agree that Db shaves several years off the learning curve and is one of the best teachers around, and I was extremely lucky that HTMMIS was the first book I read and that it led immediately to Db and this board, where one learned not only CS, but how the markets really work.nic
nea3, sped, AC, Prestone, and nic - ditto, ditto, ditto, ditto and ditto.http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=15691889
Last year, after I had been totally crushed by the market, I decided to learn about other different investing/trading methods than the one I was using. At the time I knew almost nothing about trading or the markets but I stumbled upon this board. Most of what I know now about TA I learned from lurking here and at Db's Burrow. The rest I've learned from the 60 or so books I've read since. While I didn't have any interest in CANSLIM as a method for myself, I always liked to read this board for Db's and others insights on topics related to TA and market psycology in general. I can't possibly imagine how this board could have been improved by his absence.
There is no one on this board or any other on the net that helped me more with developing my own style than Db. The Burrow, his recommended books, and his unceasing posts on this board really are what got me interested in looking at the market from a technical viewpoint and away from a strict fundamental viewpoint. It's a perspective that's saved me a lot of heartache that I would have had if I held onto the stocks of "great" companies in a long bear market. I can't think of anyone outside of maybe Bruce and a few others that have worked more tirelessly in helping others with their goals in stock trading.In fact, I checked and I haven't posted on this board at all since Db left. Not a coincidence. It's true, Db could be controlling. He more often set the tone for this board and, at times, dominated its content. But he's what helped give this board some structure and one of the best signal/noise ratios of the stock boards. The noise level here was kept to a minimum when regular posters knew Db was there to pick apart their arguments. You were more careful about what you posted when you knew Db would be judging and responding. Like his answer or not, it was usually very thoughtful and thought provoking. As to Db being chased off, I don't think that was entirely the case. He's always had his detractors. He's always had little cat fights from time to time, but it didn't bother him before. Rather, I think his own style has developed beyond CANSLIM and so continuing the same arguments he's been engaging in for years no longer appealed to him. I know that Db had started trading futures, like e-minis, and was getting away from individual issues. So if he's not trading individual stocks than he certainly has moved beyond CANSLIM. If that's the case, than that's reason enough for him to move on.Ed
he certainly has moved beyond CANSLIM. If that's the case, than that's reason enough for him to move on.Here is a post of his commenting on CANSLIM, dated 8/01/01 from the Saratoga board.<<I still have some CANSLIM lying beneath the surface>>I had that, but my doctor gave me some cream to rub on it and it cleared right up.--Db He set up a moderated board using yahoo groups. Perhaps those who miss him will find him there.Bryan
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