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Author: NoIDAtAll Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 82332  
Subject: Dental Work Date: 11/19/2012 9:27 AM
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This past week I went to a dentist. They x-ray my teeth, digitally photograph them and the dentist examines them. The dentist sez most of my teeth need crowns, or I need dentures. I ax her how much crowns cost. She sez $700 to $1,100+, each. Times around 25, I'm thinking OUCH - BIG OUCH!! I tell the lady who schedules appointments that I'll get back to her. They were very nice - even sent me a Hallmark card that every body in the office signed... Plus, the exam, photos and x-rays were free, with a coupon I found at their website. I don't think I kin afford to go back though, buy ya never know.

I have a dental discount card from Careington. The fee schedule is a LOT more reasonably priced: https://www1.careington.com/MbrFeeSchedules/501.pdf I called Dr. Painless' office, and the receptionist confirmed that the fees on the schedule are what they charge - I'm going there.

For $7 or $6 per month, I'm thinking this dental discount membership is not a bad deal, plus there's no waiting period. The discounts range from 20% to 60%.

just thought I'd pass it along, if/as you may be interested.

Bob
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Author: NoIDAtAll Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 78175 of 82332
Subject: Re: Dental Work Date: 11/19/2012 9:57 AM
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I was disappointed that Medicare doesn't cover most dental work. I also looked at a couple of local dental schools, Southern Illinois University and St Louis University. The former has a 1-year waiting period. The later, as I understand it, is limited to treating gum disease. The discounted price appears to be about the same - up to 60% off what most local dentists charge.

I bought a dental insurance plan from Assurant a week or so ago. It only covers Basic treatment for the 1st 6 months. Major treatments are covered after 6 months. During the first year it pays only half of the scheduled fees. It costs $67.30/month and the maximum it pays (after the first year) is $1,500. I have 30 days to cancel it with a full refund - I probably will.

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Author: 1poorguy Big funky green star, 20000 posts Top Recommended Fools Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 78176 of 82332
Subject: Re: Dental Work Date: 11/19/2012 11:49 AM
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Hope you got on the waiting list for SIU. Doesn't hurt to be on it...you can always change your mind later.

If you're on Medicare, did you get a Medi-gap policy? Do those not cover dental either?

If you can get them, implants are better. FWIW. As long as your bone is good, and you take care of your gums, they last forever. Crowns on natural teeth can still have problems (because the natural teeth wear and can still decay).

1poorguy (got 2 implants for 1pl...she'll never have to worry about them again, and her check-up xrays look really cool with them!)

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Author: NoIDAtAll Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 78179 of 82332
Subject: Re: Dental Work Date: 11/19/2012 8:53 PM
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Thanks, very much, 1pg! I really appreciate the advice!!

Bob

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Author: wecoguy Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 78180 of 82332
Subject: Re: Dental Work Date: 11/19/2012 9:21 PM
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What a pain... But best to be fixed up, I fought dental troubles for years, finally found a sharp ex-engineer turned dentist, Dr Lee, tall fellow, fery good, saved many, but earlier days had left me with a lot of gaps, so caps, bridges, full upper, but finally all the old silver amalgams gone, stability... So then, he packs up, moved to the big city, more $$...

So now I'm with an old time local fellow, several friends, family go to him, so it's a fun time with the whole crew.. We have dental, still left from my final years at Lucent Tech, does well until major work. Then, we pay and pay...

Root canal, a few thou... But I went to a specialist, had lost several older root canal teeth years ago, rather not gamble on any more! Amazing optics, he can see down that tiny hole! part of why the cost, but an amazing tool...

Terrible teeth as a teen, I blame it on my parents, they had false upper, lower, I guess forgot to teach me to take care of mine, so by my teens they ell apart, old Doc Peck didn't believe in pain killers, $5 a visit, he'd grind until it hurt too much, do a temp filling, come back next week...

Anyway, get 'em done, I blame a lot of early illness on my crappy teeth...

weco

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Author: NoIDAtAll Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 78181 of 82332
Subject: Re: Dental Work Date: 11/19/2012 9:48 PM
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old Doc Peck didn't believe in pain killers, $5 a visit, he'd grind until it hurt too much, do a temp filling, come back next week...

My childhood dentist, Dr. Gilbert, didn't use a pain killer either, or a water cooled drill, for that matter... What Novacaine, just to fill a tooth?! pffft!! When you started squirming and bucking too much in his chair, he simply stuck his knee in your chest to hold you still. Then he'd drill some more. I swear I smelled smoke from the drill doing its job. I will say that his fillings did tend to hold up very well though (thank goodness.)

Bob

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Author: wecoguy Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 78182 of 82332
Subject: Re: Dental Work Date: 11/19/2012 10:41 PM
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Those old dentists just must have been well past their prime, and I was clueless as far as other dentists, later, after Doc Peck messed up a molar extraction, after the oral surgeon cleaned up his mess, I went to another one, but he seemed to be just as bad the other way, like taking a router cut down the row, and backfilling with silver/mercury amalgam... OK for a while, but in the end leaked, cracked, so he was gone, and I found Dr Lee's predecessor... quiet, peaceful, skilled, good office help.. When Dr Lee left, a Polish lady took over, bad news, I think she paid too much for the practice, tried to make up for it by selling stuff.. One time of her being a jerk, I was outta there...

I surprise myself, remembering all these characters, but there were some memorable events over the years... We've made sure our kids, grandkids are a lot better cared for, still covering braces for a couple... lesson learned! We pay and we pay... Grandkids parents just don't have insurance, so it goes.. At least we can help...

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Author: wecoguy Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 78183 of 82332
Subject: Re: Dental Work Date: 11/19/2012 10:43 PM
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Actually, those new turbine drills are amazing, water cooled, over 100, 000 rpm! Smoe, even at those speeds if the bit dulls any at all... Tiny, maybe 5/1" diameter... they sing! Like to have one to play with!

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Subject: Re: Dental Work Date: 11/20/2012 1:05 AM
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We go to a dentist who is the brother of one of my best old friends. He isn't "in-network" with any insurance plan we've ever had, so it's kind of pricey, but he does good work. His son is now in dental school, so we have hopes that the practice will be in good hands for a while.
One evening a couple of years back, my older daughter knocked four of her front teeth loose doing an inexplicable "face plant" onto the wooden arms of our futon. My friend called her brother on his private number for us, and he told us to come on over to his house if we wanted him to look at it and give us advice-- free of charge. His wife even gave our daughter a teddy bear.
Not too many dentists will do that sort of thing.
(My daughter's teeth firmed back up in place, and the only noticeable change is that she is a marginally more careful person than she used to be.)

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Author: 1poorguy Big funky green star, 20000 posts Top Recommended Fools Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 78189 of 82332
Subject: Re: Dental Work Date: 11/20/2012 10:54 AM
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What Novacaine, just to fill a tooth?! pffft!! When you started squirming and bucking too much in his chair, he simply stuck his knee in your chest to hold you still. Then he'd drill some more.

Did you ever see Marathon Man? [shudder]

1poorguy ("Is it safe?")

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Author: NoIDAtAll Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 78191 of 82332
Subject: Re: Dental Work Date: 11/20/2012 8:03 PM
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Did you ever see Marathon Man? [shudder]

I don't recall seeing that.

("Is it safe?")

Ya lost me??

Bob

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Subject: Re: Dental Work Date: 11/20/2012 8:07 PM
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Ya lost me...

Then again, it's not too hard for me to get lost.

Bob

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Author: NoIDAtAll Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 78193 of 82332
Subject: Re: Dental Work Date: 11/20/2012 8:11 PM
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Then again, it's not too hard for me to get lost.

Speaking of which, has anyone heard from Mz Wiley?

Bob

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Author: 1poorguy Big funky green star, 20000 posts Top Recommended Fools Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 78199 of 82332
Subject: Re: Dental Work Date: 11/21/2012 10:04 AM
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Ya lost me??

Yeah, if you haven't seen it then you won't get the reference.

Dustin Hoffman, Lawrence Olivier

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074860/

Dentists HATE this movie. Seriously.

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Subject: Re: Dental Work Date: 11/26/2012 11:43 AM
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1poormom when she was a girl had a dentist that wouldn't use novacaine. Apparently it was brand-new, and he didn't trust it. I have had minor drilling done without it (the dentist insisted it wasn't necessary because he wasn't going "too deep"...but I think the friction still heated up the tooth and made it less-than-comfortable). I can't imagine getting serious work done without novacaine. Even before I saw Marathon Man.

Hope your situation resolved satisfactorily (or did you just get on that waiting list?).

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Subject: Re: Dental Work Date: 11/26/2012 6:13 PM
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I have an appointment with a different dentist Friday. The prices under the Careington Dental Discount plan look a lot more reasonable than what the prior dentist was indicating. I'll know more after the appointment.

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