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>>I keep wondering how the US government will react when the EU gets
its act together and becomes at least as powerful as the US.

I hope the EU does get its act together, but I'm not holding my breath. Still, do you really think it will be as powerful as the US? I mean, the economy of California's bigger than that of France. And what do you think a powerful EU would mean to GB? Do you think it would be a Euro lovefest, or a fourth reich? Will the EU ever have the humility to invite eastern Europe to the party? <<


I thought this worthy of a new thread.

The desire to revive the ancient Roman Empire has never died. The Pope tried to do it with the Holy Roman Empire, but it proved to be an empire in name only. Napoleon, Mussolini, and Hitler tried to do it with force. Churchill was a proponent of a unified Europe. Economics is succeeding where war could not.

The European Union (EU) is the revived Roman Empire spoken of in Daniel and Revelation.

The most important prophetic development of the 20th century was the regathering of the Jewish people to their historic homeland in the Middle East, resulting in the creation of the state of Israel on May 14, 1948. The second most important development was the formation of the EU. Both of these momentous events point to the fact that we are living in the end times, right on the threshold of the Rapture, Tribulation and the Lord's return!

The Council of the Union is the chief legislative body. It is headquartered in Brussels, Belgium and consists of 87 representatives appointed by the member states. Some decisions require a unanimous vote; most require a “qualified majority” of 62 votes. The voting is weighted in relation to the size of the countries.

The Parliament of the Union consists of 626 members who are directly elected for a term of five years. It is a parliament in name only. It is primarily a public forum whose members sit in blocs organized by political views instead of nationalities. It has been growing in power in recent years, its influence is felt primarily through discussions and resolutions. The Parliament holds its committee meetings at a facility in Brussels. Its plenary sessions are conducted at its elaborate new headquarters in Strasbourg, France.

The Commission of the Union is the agency responsible for implementing legislation; it is the executive branch. There are twenty Commissioners: two each from France, Germany, Italy, Spain and Britain, and one from each of the other member states. They are appointed for five-year terms. The Commission President is the chief executive officer of The European Union, currently Romano Prodi of Italy.

The Court of Justice has its headquarters in Luxembourg. There are fifteen justices, one from each member state, appointed for six-year terms. Judgments of the Court in the field of EU law are binding on all member states, their national courts, their companies and their private citizens. Their decisions override those of national courts.

The Central Bank is located in Frankfurt, Germany and is responsible for monetary policy and the new Euro currency which was introduced in Jan 1999 and which will replace the member states national currencies in Jan 2002. revenue for the Union in 2000 came to $93.2 billion, the largest source was the 1.27% of Gross National Income tax that each member state is required to pay. There is also a 1% Value Added tax (VAT) on goods and services as well as agricultural levies and customs duties.

In March of 1999 the EU opened talks on full membership with Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Poland and Slovenia. In October 1999 the Commission proposed talks with Bulgaria, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta, Romania and Slovakia. When these countries are added, nearly all of the people of Europe (about 500 million) will be joined in a single Union by free and democratic consent for the first time in history.

So now the EU has three of the most important characteristics of a state. It has a unified economic system, an integrated political structure and a shared vision for the future. It even has a common language, English, since all of these nations know English and the Internet has made it a common trade language. It only lacks a military force, but that is in the making. A military staff has been assembled with a commander-in-chief and currently has at its disposal 60,000 troops, 400 assault aircraft and 80 warships. The British government refers to it as a Rapid Reaction Force. That is a euphemism for an army. It has been dubbed “Eurocorps” by the rest of Europe and it is supposed to be ready for action by 2003. The British downplay this military arm because they want to continue their partnership with the United States in NATO. The French want this to replace NATO and it probably will.

Daniel 2:36 " This is the dream. Now we will tell the interpretation of it before the king.
37 "You, O king, are a king of kings. For the God of heaven has given you a kingdom, power, strength, and glory;
38 "and wherever the children of men dwell, or the beasts of the field and the birds of the heaven, He has given them into your hand, and has made you ruler over them all -- you are this head of gold.
39 "But after you shall arise another kingdom inferior to yours; then another, a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over all the earth.
40 "And the fourth kingdom shall be as strong as iron, inasmuch as iron breaks in pieces and shatters everything; and like iron that crushes, that kingdom will break in pieces and crush all the others.
41 "Whereas you saw the feet and toes, partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; yet the strength of the iron shall be in it, just as you saw the iron mixed with ceramic clay.
42 "And as the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly fragile.
43 "As you saw iron mixed with ceramic clay, they will mingle with the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, just as iron does not mix with clay.
44 "And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever.

(Since this has not yet occurred, we know this to be a future prophecy. We are the generation witnessing the birth of these kingdoms. We will also be the generation that sees the return of Jesus who sets up this eternal Kingdom!)

45 "Inasmuch as you saw that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold -- the great God has made known to the king what will come to pass after this. The dream is certain, and its interpretation is sure."

These kingdoms were the Babylonian Empire, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome.

Daniel 7:7 "After this I saw in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, exceedingly strong. It had huge iron teeth; it was devouring, breaking in pieces, and trampling the residue with its feet. It was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns.
8 "I was considering the horns, and there was another horn, a little one, coming up among them, before whom three of the first horns were plucked out by the roots. And there, in this horn, were eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking pompous words.

Here the ten horns are the revival of the ten toes of Nebuchadnezzars' bad dream, the “little horn” coming up among them is the rise of the Antichrist from among these ten kingdoms. Even though the EU is made up of 15 countries and still growing, it will ultimately be divided into ten sectors, or kingdoms, with a ruler to oversee each sector who will report to the president of the EU.

Leaders in Europe are already calling for a strong leader to head up the new European superstate. German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer has called for a “powerful president”. He welcomed the progress made in removing the sovereign rights of nations. Fifty years ago, Paul-Henri Spaak, former Belgian Prime Minister and President of the Consultative Assembly of the Council of Europe said, “What we want is a man of sufficient stature to hold the allegiance of all people, and to lift us out of the economic morass in which we are sinking. Send us such a man and, be he God or the devil, we will receive him.” How prophetic!
More recently, Jack Lang, president of the French National Assembly's foreign affairs committee said that the EU “needs a single figure at the helm.” Attacking the inertia in European foreign policy, he said Europe needed a strong central government with a single “personality” in control. Students of Bible prophecy have little doubt who this “personality” will be.

Addressing the European Policy Centre in September, 2000, Belgian Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt said, “It is of the utmost importance to keep in mind a global vision of the ultimate goal of European unification.” “The European Union as it is now could never be the ultimate goal.” He said the pace of integration must never slacken lest, “in the worst case, countries will start to plead for the restoration of their former sovereignty.”

Next came the real bombshell. The Belgian said that there must be real values underpinning this vast undertaking. But whose values? His answer: “the values that resulted from the French Revolution.” So the values of the brave new Europe are to be the values of the country that gave us the guillotine, the reign of terror and the time of blood washing through the streets of France!

“The Portman Papers,” a quarterly newspaper keeping watch on the developments in the superstate, says in its Oct 2000 edition, “Verhofstadt's values come from this. Eight years before the French Revolution began in 1789 with the Declaration of The Rights of Man, The General Council of Freemasonry at Wilhelmsbad, convened by Adam Weishaupt, founder of the Illuminati, drew up the blueprint. Its evil spirit was epitomized in Maximilian Robespierre, whose technique of terror anticipated Stalin's by 100 years.

The French Reign of Terror claimed over a million victims. Inmates in prisons were slaughtered. Human heads were counted up like scores on cards. The terror was justified in the name of “democracy.” Similarly, the coming clampdown on free speech, religious freedom and free political parties by the “beast of Brussels” system is being justified by words like “anti-discrimination” and “a charter of rights.”

The Vatican is playing a major role in the creation of the new European Empire, and Catholic social values, called “Christian Socialism” are at its heart. The present Pope has repeatedly called for religious unity in Europe. This means a united, Catholic Europe, which was consecrated to Mary by the Vatican in 1309.

The head of the house of Habsburg in Brussels is Otto von Habsburg, a man whose family dominated Europe for centuries. In his book “The Social Order of Tomorrow” he writes:
“Now we do possess a European symbol which belongs to all nations equally. This is the crown of the Holy Roman Empire, which embodies the tradition of Charlemagne, the ruler of a united occident…the Crown represents not merely the sovereignty of the monarch, but also the ties between authority and the people. True, it is the monarch who is crowned, but in this sacred act he appears as the representative of the whole people. It should therefore be considered whether the European head of state, as the protector of European law and justice, should not also become the guardian of a symbol which, more than any other, represents the sovereignty of the European community.”
Dr. Habsburg wants to see Europe have an elected head of state – a man elected for life! This influence of both Charlemagne and the Habsburgs hangs heavily over the new federal Europe. The crown of Charlemagne, the first person to attempt to revive the Roman Empire in 800 AD, is an inspiration to those who promote the breaking down of nation states, and a Charlemagne prize has been established for those who work hardest for European unity. One who did was ex-President Bill Clinton, who in June 2000, was the first American to receive the Charlemagne prize for his work in promoting European unity. He received the prize at the cathedral in Aachen, Germany, where the first Holy Roman Emperor lies buried.

On a side note, the Habsburgs also maintain a museum in Brussels that is open to the public. Inside this museum is the spear that pierced the side of Christ on the cross by the Roman soldier. It is said to have great power from Satan for the possessor of it. A friend of mine made a trip there just to pray beside it.

Let's look at some of the symbols of the European Union.

The EU's flag consists of twelve stars, inspired by the halo of 12 stars that appear around the Madonna in Catholic pictures of her. A former secretary general of the Council of Europe, Leon Marchal, affirmed that the stars are those of “the woman of the Apocalypse.” Enthusiastically he explained, “It's wonderful that we have gotten back to the Introit of the new Mass of the Assumption. It's the corona stellarum duodecim (the crown of the twelve stars) of the woman of the Apocalypse.” This is a reference to the woman who appears in Revelation 12 who appears with a crown of 12 stars. Although this woman represents Israel, the Catholic Church has always claimed that she represents the virgin Mary, “the mother of God.”

The EU, which now has 15 member countries, has confirmed that the number of stars will always remain at 12, which indicate they do not represent countries. From a leaflet “Building Europe Together,” issued to commemorate Europe Day, May 9: The flag, blue with 12 gold stars symbolizing completeness. The number will remain at 12 no matter how many countries there are in the European Union. It also touts Europe's new common anthem “Ode to Joy,” the prelude to the last movement of Beethoven's ninth symphony. The lyrics to this song, by a man named Friedrich von Schiller, concern the entering of the shrine of a pagan goddess and the uniting of all men in brotherhood, by the power of magic.

A poster was issued by the European Union showing the Tower of Babel and carrying the slogan “Many tongues, one voice.” A crane in the background was shown rebuilding the tower. Above the Tower of Babel were shown the 12 eurostars, but inverted, as in witchcraft, with the central points downwards.

Mystical Babylon is now being rebuilt in Europe. The parliament building in Strasbourg, France features a centerpiece of an enormous replica of the Tower of Babel. Even the secular press did not miss the connection, labeling it the “Tower of Eurobabel.”

Another demonic biblical symbol that is being used in conjunction with the European Union is the one from Revelation 17 where a “great harlot” is depicted riding a beast. This symbol is being used to represent the EU! When Britain issued a stamp to commemorate the first European Parliamentary elections in 1979, the picture on the stamp depicted a woman riding a beast. The multi-million dollar new parliament building in Brussels, Belgium contains a dome with a colossal painting, three times life-size, of a woman riding a beast. In Strasbourg, France, the rival parliamentary building (the one with the Tower of Babel) features a mural of a naked woman riding a beast. The new Brussels headquarters of the Council of Europe contains a bronze statue of a woman riding a beast, and the beast is depicted riding on waves, just as in Revelation 17.

Scripture is being fulfilled right before our eyes, for those with eyes to see!

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