UnThreaded | Threaded | Whole Thread (36) | Ignore Thread Prev Thread | Next Thread
Author: BGinNJ Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 740473  
Subject: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/4/2013 1:06 AM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 3
Well I got a call back from my new doctor the other day. Actually she is a nurse practitioner and I like how the experience played out. She actually spent 20-30 minutes with me going over my history and answered all of my questions. Usually I never get more than 5-7 minutes with any doctor.

Anyway, she called to go over the results of my bloodwork. I have never had any particular issue over the years as I have kept my weight in line, don't smoke, have exercised somewhat regularly and try hard not to let too many things really get to me. This time there were a couple of things that she wanted to address. One was a low vitamin D reading (above 30 is normal and mine was around 11). She prescribed a once a week megadose for 10 weeks with a followup test afterwards. The other was a slightly elevated LDL reading of 118 compared to 100 baseline. She suggested I take 1000 mg of Flaxseed Oil three times a day. I didn't realize that Catherine had an audience 3000 miles away from her home base.

So what if anything should I expect from this experiment? Will it turn me into something I cannot recognize? My HDL was 188 which is fine.

BTW, This was the most time I ever spent discussing things with a medical person. She not only spent a good deal of time during the physical, but she went over every main item on the bloodwork. When I asked about the training a nurse practitioner has she said she was an RN earlier in her career, had her masters in medicine and specialized in cardiology. She did not have a residency and had no desire to become a formal MD or specialist.

My appointment with her was set up about 1 week ahead of time. The primary doctor she worked with did not have any openings for a physical until February. The perception to me is that most people do not want to utilize a nurse practioner vs a MD. However, the primary doctor that she is attached to is someone that I never even had 5 minutes of his time back in the day when I previously used this practice. Unless I need the specific knowledge of the primary, my preference would be to regularly deal with the nurse practitioner.

Do any of you have any experience in this regard?


BG
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Print the post Back To Top
Author: fleg9bo Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 663908 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/4/2013 2:04 AM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 0
She suggested I take 1000 mg of Flaxseed Oil three times a day.

Here's the stuff I take, two tablespoons per day. A bottle lasts five to six weeks.

http://www.omeganutrition.com/inventoryD.asp?item_no=ELEBO03...

One thing you have to be concerned about with regard to oils is rancidity. How long has it been sitting around? Essential Balance is made fresh, so fresh that you might find your order delayed while they make a fresh batch. And it's shipped in thick plastic bottles with nitrogen or something added to preserve freshness. Get several at a time to save on shipping and keep the unused ones in the freezer.

They also make good coconut oil for cooking and snacking on:

http://www.omeganutrition.com/inventoryD.asp?item_no=COCCB01...

--fleg

Print the post Back To Top
Author: CCinOC Big gold star, 5000 posts Top Recommended Fools Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 663911 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/4/2013 2:06 AM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 0
I didn't realize that Catherine had an audience 3000 miles away from her home base.

tee hee hee

One thing you'll notice as you get more Omega 3 Essential Fatty Acids into your system is that your skin will be softer and smoother. If your heels have a bit of cracking to them, that condition will clear up.

Print the post Back To Top
Author: arrete Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 663937 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/4/2013 9:17 AM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 0
So why flaxseed oil instead of ground flaxseed? Just curious.

That is a really low reading of Vit D. mine used to be 17 - too me a couple of years to get it up to 30. Last reading was 88, though. After the equinox, go sit in the sun some.

My HDL was 188 which is fine.

Did you mean 188 or 88? Mine was 119 and my doctor decided it was a bad blood sample. Low-carb people have high HDLs and low trigylcerides.

As long as the doctor also looked over the blood test, having a NP for a physical wouldn't bother me.

arrete

Print the post Back To Top
Author: Art53 Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 663965 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/4/2013 10:24 AM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 0
"Do any of you have any experience in this regard?" - BG


Yeah, I've had good luck with Nurse Practioners. The University of Georgia Student Health Services used Nurse Practioners when I went to school there and the few times I went to the UGA student clinic they diagnosed my problems quickly and whatever they prescribed worked.

Oh yeah, they were very nice and kind too. I liked that.

Art

Print the post Back To Top
Author: tjscott0 Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 663987 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/4/2013 11:18 AM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 1
I rec'd the OP as it is an interesting topic. And it is a refreshing change from the political posts. Remember in the olden days this board was filled with these types of posts.

As MLK said: "I have a Dream!" <grin>

I'm kinda burnt out on politics as the GOP is no longer fiscal conservative or small gov't. It really doesn't matter who is in power. They're almost entirely tools of the lobbyists & special interests [exceptions Coburn Rand, DeMinty].

Print the post Back To Top
Author: CelloSpice Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664009 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/4/2013 12:09 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 0
My appointment with her was set up about 1 week ahead of time. The primary doctor she worked with did not have any openings for a physical until February. The perception to me is that most people do not want to utilize a nurse practioner vs a MD. However, the primary doctor that she is attached to is someone that I never even had 5 minutes of his time back in the day when I previously used this practice. Unless I need the specific knowledge of the primary, my preference would be to regularly deal with the nurse practitioner.

Do any of you have any experience in this regard?



My PCP will see me pretty much as I need to be seen. Some of my specialists, however, have used physician assistants and nurse practitioners. The physician assistants I've had were excellent. The lone nurse practitioner, not so much. She couldn't answer the most basic questions I had, nor did she offer to find out for me. I was still charged $50 copay as though I had seen the actual doctor, and frankly it was a waste of my time. All of the staff had told me how "wonderful" this nurse practitioner is. Really? I didn't see it, because she didn't seem to know much of anything, and her main function was to tell me to "follow the doctors orders."

Print the post Back To Top
Author: namkato Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664079 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/4/2013 4:14 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 0
http://www.costco.com/trunature%C2%AE-Organic-Flaxseed-Oil-1...

You can get a large bottle of it at Costco, I don't remember the price but I think it was under $15. It stays fresh without refrigeration in the capsules.

Print the post Back To Top
Author: MetalDecathlete Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664096 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/4/2013 4:47 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 0
fleg
One thing you have to be concerned about with regard to oils is rancidity. How long has it been sitting around? Essential Balance is made fresh, so fresh that you might find your order delayed while they make a fresh batch. And it's shipped in thick plastic bottles with nitrogen or something added to preserve freshness. Get several at a time to save on shipping and keep the unused ones in the freezer.



I buy my flaxseeds (not powder or oil) in bulk. Then grind about 5-6 six days supply in a $20 Mr Coffee grinder. Takes less than 5 minutes.

Fresh, cheap, easy ground flax seed. I take 3-4 heaping teespoons every morning with my barleygrass juice.


decath

Print the post Back To Top
Author: prairiefire Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664127 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/4/2013 6:18 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 0
If your HDL was 188 you will live forever!! Was it HDL or total cholesterol?

Print the post Back To Top
Author: fleg9bo Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664133 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/4/2013 6:45 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 0
I buy my flaxseeds (not powder or oil) in bulk. Then grind about 5-6 six days supply in a $20 Mr Coffee grinder.

Just make sure it's not the same grinder you use for your civet poop coffee.

--fleg

Print the post Back To Top
Author: warrl Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664164 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/4/2013 8:05 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 0
One was a low vitamin D reading (above 30 is normal and mine was around 11). She prescribed a once a week megadose for 10 weeks with a followup test afterwards.

I remember that. DD got a low reading so DW and I thought we ought to get checked. I was also low; DW's reading was so low that it wasn't even reported as a number (too low for the test they use to give an accurate reading, which I think effectively means somewhere on the wrong side of 6).

Oh, and normal is anywhere from 30 to 100.

DW was given pills that are a four-month RDA each and told to take two a week for six weeks. I got one a week for a month. Since then we have been taking 500 to 1000 units a day each.

Print the post Back To Top
Author: Art53 Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664182 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/4/2013 8:27 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 0
"I remember that. DD got a low reading so DW and I thought we ought to get checked. I was also low; DW's reading was so low that it wasn't even reported as a number (too low for the test they use to give an accurate reading, which I think effectively means somewhere on the wrong side of 6). Oh, and normal is anywhere from 30 to 100.DW was given pills that are a four-month RDA each and told to take two a week for six weeks. I got one a week for a month. Since then we have been taking 500 to 1000 units a day each." - Warrl


I buy a big bottle of 2,000 I.U. 400 Vitamin D3 pills at Sam's club and take one a day. I had a physical in November and my doctor always measures Vitamin D and he said my was fine.

I also use whole milk in cereal and sometimes with cookies or brownies; and I also take a 1-a-day Equate Vitamin for Seniors from Sam's Club and it has like 400 I.U. of D3 in it.

Oh yeah, I eat meat, chicken, fish, beef, pork squirrel, rabbit, shrimp, oysters, clams, crawfish, whatever the hell I can get my hands on. I loves me some meat.

Art

Print the post Back To Top
Author: CelloSpice Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664275 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/5/2013 12:50 AM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 2
Fresh, cheap, easy ground flax seed. I take 3-4 heaping teespoons every morning with my barleygrass juice.


I'm curious what that concoction looks like when you hurl.

Print the post Back To Top
Author: CCinOC Big gold star, 5000 posts Top Recommended Fools Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664289 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/5/2013 2:07 AM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 0
I'm curious what that concoction looks like when you hurl.

I was thinking the same thing! How in the world does one manage to keep this down?!

Print the post Back To Top
Author: BGinNJ Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664430 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/5/2013 3:27 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 1
<After the equinox, go sit in the sun some.>


I don't know how seasonal one's numbers are. In the summer I always load up on the SPF 30-50. While I know it provides valuable protection, it may well limit the benefits one receives from nature. I do get much less sun than I used to and that has been deliberate due to all the repeated warnings about the dangers of sunshine.

Another point. I only recall having my bloodwork being used to check for vitamin deficiencies once before. That is not to say that it wasn't done many times. I only recall being told about it once and the number was fine. I wonder just how varied blood tests are. What determines how many things are checked in a typical blood test? Why do most doctors not even go over the results with you unless there is something way out of line?

I haven't been nearly as attentive as I used to be medically speaking. My last formal regular doctor visit was shortly before Obama became president. This was primarily due to my LT doctor not accepting my new insurance and the policy not being as good as prior ones. Actually my medical records are probably dispersed among 6-7 doctors as changes in coverage over the years often resulted in me having to change doctors.

My only doctor visits in the last four years have been when I had a bad cold/cough and went to our local CVS Minute clinic which worked out ok for me, even though that provider also was not an MD. I did see my dermotologist in 2010 and when I told her I had no primary care doctor, she sent me for bloodwork, which came back normal for all that it tested for. However, I didn't see any vitamin tests on that report, at least none that I could decifer. BTW, the 188 number that I mentioned was the total cholesterol number, not the HDL. I don't remember the HDL number, only that it was in line. It is difficult relying on ones memory these days.<g>

I could and probably should write a post about insurance coverage. There are some nasty bumps in the road even for a supposedly simple two person plan that costs about $900/mo. It causes me a fair amount of distress. When combined with the 5+ years of distress that a close family member has caused us (emotionally, physically and financially) my ability to keep an even keel has often been put to the test. One thing that has helped to mitigate the stress has been the addition of our puppy Toby two years ago. He has made a huge positive difference in our lives. Toby has reminded me of Harry Truman's old saying that "If you want a friend in Washington, get a dog". The good news is that you don't have to go down to DC to get a dog.


B

Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Print the post Back To Top
Author: arrete Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664433 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/5/2013 3:57 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 2
Unless you have a doctor who even thinks about vit.D testings, you probably won't get one, because they are expensive. I always ask. I started at 17 (or whatever) and worked on it, and finally got up to 88. I asked my cardiologist for that one (since I was having blood tested anyway). He thought I was crazy. However, I have osteoporosis problems, and you need Vit D to grow bones.

Here's an older article on Vit D from Harvard. If you are above 37 latitude, you can't get vit. from sun exposure in the winter.
http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsweek/time-for-more-vitamin...

arrete

Print the post Back To Top
Author: CCinOC Big gold star, 5000 posts Top Recommended Fools Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664435 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/5/2013 4:18 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 1
I do get much less sun than I used to and that has been deliberate due to all the repeated warnings about the dangers of sunshine.

Omega 3 EFA is an internal sunscreen.

Dry skin burns in the sun quite easily. Sunburn is associated with skin damage (leathery skin) and skin cancer. Well-oiled skin tans better and burns less. That is why oils are used in ‘tanning’ lotions. The best oils, however, are not used in these lotions because they do not keep forever on the shelf. I have found that when I take enough good oils to keep my skin properly oiled (soft, smooth, and velvety), I can stay in the sun four times longer than I could before I adopted the good oils into my diet. The sun is one of our important sources of vitamin D. Sun blocks can inhibit the production of this important essential nutrient/hormone. Recent research suggests that 80% of the population does not get enough vitamin D; that we need far more than is being recommended; and that insufficient amounts of vitamin D increase risk of bone loss, many cancers, cardiovascular disease, infections, insulin resistance, and immune and autoimmune conditions including multiple sclerosis, irritable bowel, and asthma. Avoiding the sun is not the solution. Protecting the skin from inside with EFAs is a much better option. With this protection, I can still burn, but it takes a lot longer. And I get the vitamin D I need from the sun. This is to say that overexposure to the sun will always be a possibility, but a much less likely one when skin is properly oiled with omega-3 and omega-6 EFAs made with health in mind.

Disclosure: Udo Erasmus sells a line of Omega products.

http://udoerasmus.com/products/1_index_en.htm

Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Print the post Back To Top
Author: CelloSpice Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664445 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/5/2013 5:25 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 2
What determines how many things are checked in a typical blood test?

I don't know the answer to that, but I have an inkling of how my doctor does it. Every other year he orders what I think are a standard set of tests for any patient, including CBC, glucose, cholesterol, etc. If during our discussion he determines that other blood tests would shed light on my specific problems, he'll order those, as well.

I would imagine if I were a heart patient he might order cholesterol every year, so I think he tailors the order to the specific patient.



Why do most doctors not even go over the results with you unless there is something way out of line?

This is a huge pet peeve of mine. I have RBC and hematocrit values slightly out of range on the high side, and it's been that way for years. All of the doctors who ran those tests ignored it. If only one of them had decided to look into why my counts were too high, there may have been some solutions to my health problems much sooner. Doctors are taught to ignore all values in range or only slightly out of range, apparently.

I think it is also the case that doctors don't have time to uncover the identity of subtle problems, even if they are able. It's only going to get worse as doctors will have to see more and more paying patients to make up for the free work Zerodoesn'tcare has dumped on them.


And don't get me started on the range for normal values. This can be a stupid concept when applied to individuals.

Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Print the post Back To Top
Author: arrete Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664446 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/5/2013 5:30 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 0
This is a huge pet peeve of mine. I have RBC and hematocrit values slightly out of range on the high side, and it's been that way for years. All of the doctors who ran those tests ignored it. If only one of them had decided to look into why my counts were too high, there may have been some solutions to my health problems much sooner. Doctors are taught to ignore all values in range or only slightly out of range, apparently.

I think it is also the case that doctors don't have time to uncover the identity of subtle problems, even if they are able.
-------------------

I'm sorry to hear that, tmeri. I was checked by any number of orthodedic doctors. Not one of them breathed the word scoliosis. I might have had few years of pain and a better outcome if the problem had been addressed earlier. In my case, most orthopods don't do back surgery - especially something as complex as scoliosis - so they never said anything.

arrete

Print the post Back To Top
Author: LuckyDog2002 Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664454 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/5/2013 6:00 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 1
Unless you have a doctor who even thinks about vit.D testings, you probably won't get one, because they are expensive. I always ask. I started at 17 (or whatever) and worked on it, and finally got up to 88. I asked my cardiologist for that one (since I was having blood tested anyway). He thought I was crazy. However, I have osteoporosis problems, and you need Vit D to grow bones.

Here's an older article on Vit D from Harvard. If you are above 37 latitude, you can't get vit. from sun exposure in the winter.
http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsweek/time-for-more-vitamin......

arrete

>>>>>>>>

my idiot endocrinologist said there was no evidence about Vit. D being beneficial. This was at our first meeting. I got him because the co founder of practice left to start another practice and this goofball was the other co founder and is younger than me and he says there is no evidence. I've read the evidence...the guy is a twit and my last reading last month or month before that was 38....

I take 4000 IU's fall and winter, 2000 IU's in spring and summer.
When I had a nurse practioner/gyno practice, she put me on 50,000 units twice to get levels up.

I've started to take them after breakfast rather than after midafternoon meal hoping that makes a difference.

LD

Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Print the post Back To Top
Author: tjscott0 Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664461 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/5/2013 6:19 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 2
Unless you have a doctor who even thinks about vit.D testings, you probably won't get one, because they are expensive.

This caused me to think:"How expensive could they be?"

I use direct labs in ordering tests then go the local Labcorp to have the blood drawn.

Anyway assuming this is the correct test its only $59
https://www.directlabs.com/Resources/Vitamins/VitaminD/tabid...

Print the post Back To Top
Author: TMBFAverageJoe Big funky green star, 20000 posts Top Favorite Fools Top Recommended Fools Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664475 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/5/2013 7:31 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 2
In regards to a NP:

The cardiologist I started seeing after my encounter with atrial fibrillation is supposed
to be the highest rated in her specialty in my area. Although efficient, I found her cold, curt
and aloof. At my last appointment with her I was surprised to be talking to a NP instead
of her. At first I was put off, since the reason my primary care doc, (a damned good Internist)
referred me to her was her supposedly superior knowledge in matters concerning the heart.
So I felt a bit cheated when I found myself talking to a NP. However it took less than a couple
of minutes to allay my disappointment. The NP was sharp, knowledgeable, and above all,
personable. Before I see a doctor, I do a lot of reading on whatever my malady may be, and ask
pointed questions. I was pleasantly surprised by the ease with which she answered my queries on
drug dosage and possible interactions with others I'm taking. She adjusted my dosage of one,
replaced another with a different one, and I could feel the improvement within days. She comes
in only once a week, so I made sure my next appointment was on a day when I could see her.
No fear.

~aj

Print the post Back To Top
Author: BGinNJ Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664557 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/6/2013 12:52 AM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 1
The Vitamin D dose I was prescribed is 50k, taken once a week for 10 weeks. Is there some advantage to taking it like this rather than spreading it out to say 10-15k every other day? Does the large dose jump start your readings rather than send them on a slow upward angle with a smaller dose? It seems that it took you quite some time to improve your numbers. Also if 88 was near your target, that number is well above the 30+ that is the start of the "normal" range. I infer from your posts that your osteoprosis causes you to aim much higher to build a comfortable cushion.

Is there anything that you noticed when you were taking the larger doses of Vit D? IE: certain vitamins or medicines can alter the color of ones urine flow or stool. Sometimes it can make you feel a bit different than normal. I have taken two of the megadoses so far and have not noticed any changes or felt any different at all.

I also do not feel or see any differences from taking the flaxseed oil capsules. CC said that one would notice a difference in skin texture after a period of time. I know that my skin dries out excessively in the winter time, which I suspect is common with most people. What I am taking is Sundown Naturals 1000mg. It has 450mg of Omega 3, 110mg of Omega 6, 110mg of Omega 9 and 50mg of other fatty acids.

While I was not big on alternative medical treatments, I did open my mind to some when I first went to a chiropractor some 10-12 years ago. I had severe back pain which had as its root cause three herniated discs in my lower back. It got progressively worse causing spasms that limited my movement for 5-10 days at a time, happening up to about 10 times a year. My primary care doctor said a chiropractor helped him out with his back problems which he said were made worse by his twisting movements examining his many patients every day. My pain won out over my skepticism. This was especially true since I had gone many times to physical therapy with absolutely no improvement in my condition no matter how many times I did the prescribed exercises. Additionally, the pain medicine I tried once put me all out of kilter. I don't like taking medication unless I really need to.

When I met with the Chiropractor and he reviewed my MRI, he said that he could reduce the freqency and duration of the episodes as well as the intensity of them. Since I started my course of treatment and maintenence schedule, I have not had more than one occurance in any year and those that have occured have been for 1-3 days with much less pain involved. The adjustments simply created more space between the discs and the nerves. Keeping my weight in line helps as does being very aware of how I lift up anything.

One change that took my awhile to realize was concerning my alergies. I had strong seasonal allergies since the time I was about 13 years old. For 30 plus years I usually filled a prescription 3-6 times a year. This was just something that I learned to live with. After about one year of chiropractic treatments, I looked through my medicine cabinet and saw that my allergy medicine was past its expiration date. I hadn't filled it at all since starting treatments. I simply stopped having severe allergy days and had far fewer moderate to mild allergy days. In the course of a year most of the OTC allergy medicine that I take is for fighting off cold symptoms that may occur. So, I consider the whole experience to be very positive for myself, although YMMV.

Sorry if I have gone on too long. I do feel a change in topic is good for the body and mind. Thanks to all who made a contribution to this thread.


BG

Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Print the post Back To Top
Author: CCinOC Big gold star, 5000 posts Top Recommended Fools Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664558 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/6/2013 12:54 AM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 0
I know that my skin dries out excessively in the winter time, which I suspect is common with most people.

The only time my skin is noticeably dry is during the Santa Ana winds. Otherwise, my skin is like a baby's butt. I credit Omega-3. ;-)

Print the post Back To Top
Author: BGinNJ Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664559 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/6/2013 1:15 AM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 0
"Here come those Santa Ana winds again"


http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/s/steely_dan/babylon_sister...


Scroll down on the left and listen to the You Tube video of Babylon Sisters. Over the years Donald Fagin has not done all that many live performances. This one has a full team of players on it. It is a great song both musically and lyrically.

Print the post Back To Top
Author: LuckyDog2002 Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664582 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/6/2013 9:17 AM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 1
I know that my skin dries out excessively in the winter time, which I suspect is common with most people.

The only time my skin is noticeably dry is during the Santa Ana winds. Otherwise, my skin is like a baby's butt. I credit Omega-3. ;-)
CC


>>>>>>

I'm sorry CC as with all claims on posts, we need to verify that this is absolutely true. :)

Print the post Back To Top
Author: LuckyDog2002 Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664586 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/6/2013 9:23 AM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 1
Hi BG, I like the change in topic too especially if it's health related.

The times I was seeing that NP and she kept a close eye on my thyroid and Vit. D levels....I think my SAD and overall mood was higher then.

From what I remember the 50K doses were meant to jack it up and restore the levels but it doesn't stay there indefinitely. It needs to be watched and doses changed from time to time.

Thanks for talking about the chiro, allergies and 3 herniated discs. I haven't tried a chiro yet but the ortho guy recced his brother who is a chiro because he knew how he was trained, he didn't know about the other chiro's around here. I had a girlfriend with bad discs and she went to this quack chiro for a long time and the poor thing was suffering with severe back pain. She eventually went to a osteopath and he took xrays and said, I can't help you you need surgery. I gave her the name of a neurosurgeon I had gone to and she did and had the surgery done and has done well ever since.

Print the post Back To Top
Author: arrete Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664604 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/6/2013 9:47 AM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 1
The Vitamin D dose I was prescribed is 50k, taken once a week for 10 weeks. Is there some advantage to taking it like this rather than spreading it out to say 10-15k every other day? Does the large dose jump start your readings rather than send them on a slow upward angle with a smaller dose?
-----------

I've known several people who have taken the mega doses to jump stat. I think it is pretty common, and your level was really low.

I've had chiropracty over the years - sometimes it has helped, but scoliosis is beyond chiropracty, and now with a fused back, I can't go. Oh well.

arrete

Print the post Back To Top
Author: TheBaronAndrew Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664773 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/6/2013 10:49 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 1
Omega 3 EFA is an internal sunscreen. -CC


I did notice that after I started taking fish oil capsules, I no longer get sunburn in the summertime even if I stay in the sun for hours. I had no idea this would happen and it's not the reason I started taking them, but it was a very pleasant side effect. I personally have no idea whether or not they're doing anything else for me -- they don't seem to have any positive effect on my blood pressure or cholesterol readings, and I still get dry, chapped skin in spots.

Print the post Back To Top
Author: CCinOC Big gold star, 5000 posts Top Recommended Fools Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664774 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/6/2013 11:06 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 1
I still get dry, chapped skin in spots.

Rub flaxseed oil directly on the dry spots. Transdermal delivery of drugs is currently one of the hottest areas of clinical research. Omega 3 is one of Nature's most potent "drugs," so just massage it into those areas.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2700785

First-generation transdermal delivery systems have continued their steady increase in clinical use for delivery of small, lipophilic, low-dose drugs. Second-generation delivery systems using chemical enhancers, non-cavitational ultrasound and iontophoresis have also resulted in clinical products; the ability of iontophoresis to control delivery rates in real time provides added functionality. Third-generation delivery systems target their effects to skin’s barrier layer of stratum corneum using microneedles, thermal ablation, microdermabrasion, electroporation and cavitational ultrasound.

Microdermabrasion is something I know a little about in a DIY way. I buy 100 grit aluminum oxide crystals, mix it with shea butter cream or aloe cream and give myself a facial that would cost $50+ in a salon. (Keep the crystals mixture away from the tender skin around your eyes!)

http://www.needcrystals.com

So...microdermabrade the dry area, then slap on some flaxseed oil. You'll be amazed how velvety soft your skin will be.

If your lips get chapped, they need hydration, not lubrication. Put a steaming warm wet wash cloth to your lips until they become fully saturated with moisture; THEN seal the moisture in with a thick waxy substance like Chap Stick. I learned this when my son had chronic chapped lips from nervous licking.

Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Print the post Back To Top
Author: warrl Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664840 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/7/2013 3:05 AM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 1
Otherwise, my skin is like a baby's butt. I credit Omega-3. ;-)
CC


>>>>>>

I'm sorry CC as with all claims on posts, we need to verify that this is absolutely true. :)


I dunno... if she means her skin is sh**y, I'm willing to accept it without verification.

:)

Print the post Back To Top
Author: CCinOC Big gold star, 5000 posts Top Recommended Fools Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664847 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/7/2013 3:41 AM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 0
I dunno... if she means her skin is sh**y, I'm willing to accept it without verification.

1HappyFool posted a photo. Let me see if I can find it.

Print the post Back To Top
Author: MetalDecathlete Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664905 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/7/2013 11:19 AM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 0
metaldecath
Fresh, cheap, easy ground flax seed. I take 3-4 heaping teespoons every morning with my barleygrass juice.

CelloSpice
I'm curious what that concoction looks like when you hurl.


lol! I usually don't mix them together but it does not taste bad because the barley grass powder comes flavored with either berry or mint. The sweetener is stevia so it tastes quite good without any 'grassy' barley taste.

The flax seed has a nutty, grainy taste. Something I've always liked anyway. I mix it with water and sometimes add a packet of stevia with it. DW does not like to drink her flax so she scoops a couple of tablesoons of ground flax and eats it that way. Then washes it down with water.

DW eats similiar to me but has her own taste preferences. For example, she does not care for stevia at all. So I buy a verson of Barley Grass powder without any sweetener for her. It does taste like grass to me so I don't care too much for it, yet, she likes it.

metaldecathlete

Print the post Back To Top
Author: MetalDecathlete Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 664908 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/7/2013 11:23 AM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 0
cc
I was thinking the same thing! How in the world does one manage to keep this down?!


The flavored barley grass juices taste fruity or minty. Taste wise, It's not much different than drinking a glass of concentrated fruit juice in the morning.

Here is where I order mine:

http://ecommerce.hacres.com/BarleyMax-Berry?sc=43&catego...

Before they came out with the berry and mint flavors, I just suffered through the taste. Now I enjoy it and often mix it with smoothies for an extra superfood boost.

Metal

Print the post Back To Top
Author: BGinNJ Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 665240 of 740473
Subject: Re: Flaxseed Oil?!?! Date: 1/8/2013 6:53 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 1
<I've had chiropracty over the years - sometimes it has helped, but scoliosis is beyond chiropracty, and now with a fused back, I can't go.>


I just remembered about my doctor originally recomending a chiropractor to me since it was a very big help to him. Then there was a time when he didn't accept my insurance so I had to switch to another doctor in the office who did. This new doctor refused to provide me with referals for the chiro that I had been going to for over a year. He didn't believe that it was a legitimate medical treatment. I had to then find another doctor in the office who would provide the referrals.

All these years later, this doctor is the one who my NP is working for. The issue with referals is moot now. My curent policy does not provide any coverage for chiropractic treatment. My chiropractor has simply accepted my normal copay of $30 for each treatment.

I intend to stick with the NP and only use the MD if necessary. This is part of the reason why I haven't gone to a regular doctor in about 4 years. I got tired of having to start from scratch over and over again. When I finally decided that I needed to bite the bullet, I went back to the practice that I long ago used. One of the doctors that I liked only accepts patients who pay an $1600 annual retainer fee. Apparently that fee gets you quicker access and longer face time with the doctor. All your visits still have to go through your insurance.

Anyway, as I said previously, the NP provided me with fairly quick access for my physical. She also spent much more time with me during the office visit as well as on the phone a week later going over the test results. I have no doubt that if it was the MD, I would have had 3-5 minutes face time in the office visit and that a staff member would probably have been the one to call me to go over the results. The so called top of the food chain does not always provide the best service.


BG

Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll . Report this Post | Recommend it!
Print the post Back To Top
UnThreaded | Threaded | Whole Thread (36) | Ignore Thread Prev Thread | Next Thread
Advertisement