for 1HappyFool,You took the words out of my mouth -- I agree with all of your post. Here's a suggestion that I think is worth examining, not that I have made up my mind on its merits: Since social security "contributions" are not deductible for income tax purposes, people are paying income taxes on income they don't currently get. Credit the social security program with those income taxes and the shortfall may disappear. Of course, that would leave less money in the federal budget for other programs. A serious suggestion along these lines would have to specify what other programs to cut. I'd nominate agricultural programs for a start, particularly cases where agriculture takes tax-payer subsidized water to produce surplus products, also tax-payer subsidized. If this leads to substantial depopulation of the High Plains or other regions, so be it. I greatly admire the buffalo, prairie dog and black-footed ferret anyway. Chips, who thinks that no such problem gets solved in isolation
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