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Subject: Re: The Economist cools on AGW Date: 4/1/2013 1:20 AM
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Freaks from around the spectrum throw "denialist" around

... you're just not getting it, despite the many times I have explained this.

Of course there are denialists. These are people who deny.

Considering climate change, denialists come on 3 broad forms:

- The first order are those who deny that human-displaced CO2 has ANY effect on the atmosphere with regards to climate change.

- The second order are those who deny that human-displaced CO2 has ANY IMPORTANT effect on the atmosphere with regards to climate change in the face of natural cycles.

- The third order are those who say that human-displaced CO2 might have an effect on the atmosphere with regards to climate change -- but that we can't do anything about it so we may as well not try.

Definitely the first two orders and much of the third order is in opposition to the orthodoxy on this issue. THAT is the part that people refer to as "settled" -- the part about whether or not humanity is having an effect. The overwhelming majority of credible sources agree on this.

What no one in the orthodoxy claims is a complete understanding of the mechanisms and results of the human-induced effects of climate change. That part of the science isn't settled -- and only people with an agenda to try to make the scientists look bad claim that anyone on the orthodox side is saying that it is.

Do you understand now? If not - it can't be made any clearer.
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