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Author: JohnAndLori Three stars, 500 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 86536  
Subject: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/1/2002 3:59 PM
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In the past year, telemarketers have become a bigger nuisance in my life than ever before. At first I would just hang up on them. The calls kept coming. Then I started to ask to be taken off their calling lists. The calls kept coming. I got angrier and angrier but...The calls kept coming.

I realized, hey, why not toy with these inconsiderate bastards the way they toy with me? Since they have an incentive to trudge through the call to the end, they stay on the line MUCH longer and take MUCH more abuse than you'd normally expect. I've turned telemarketing calls into prank calls where the "mark" calls me!

Here are a few strategies I've come up with. Some I've tried already, and others I am itching to try in the near future.

Deaf Guy:
Make the operator repeat everything twice by shouting into the phone "EXCUSE ME? I CAN BARELY HEAR YOU!" every 15 seconds or so. Being sure to interrupt since it adds to the realism. The operator will gradually raise her voice until she is screaming too. Once she reaches maximum volume, say in a calm, cool voice, "There is no reason to shout at me."

Silent Guy:
This is almost the opposite of Deaf Guy. Try to speak as little as possible...and when you do, whisper with only a "yes" or "no" answer. The object is to allow the operator to go as long as possible without you saying a word. Eventually, there will be a moment where the operator will think you may have hung up the phone. "Hello, are you there?" Don't answer immediately. "Hello?...Heeeellllooo?" The longer you can drag out the uncomfortable silence, the better. Just before they are about to disconnect, whisper, "yes, I'm here", and start again.

Please Hold:
In this one, the object is simply to put the operator on hold...and leave them there. The call goes something like this: "Hello, I'm Jane Doe from the Acme Widget Company and..." cut her off immediately and say, "Oh, yes...I've been looking to buy an Acme Widget, can you hold for a second, I have a call on the other line?" The key is to REALLY sell yourself. Then just put the operator on hold and walk away. If you have a speaker phone, put the call on speaker and hit the mute button. See how long the operator waits before she hangs up.

Hey Baby:
After the operator gets done with her intro, say something like, "Wow, you have a really sexy voice.". Then at the next pause you say something like, "I'll bet you are gorgeous...are you married?" As the call moves on, show as little interest in the sales pitch as possible, but keep pouring on the complements. Eventually, ask her out for a date, and DO NOT take "no" for an answer...even if you have to promise to fly across the country to meet her. This works best if the operator is of the opposite sex, but it can also work for the same sex if you are feeling adventurous.

It's a Pleasure:
Take "Hey Baby" in a slightly different direction. Ask the operator what she looks like. Ask her what she is wearing. Again, keep pushing the envelope with increasingly personal questions. As the call continues, gradually increase your heavy breathing. If she actually answers any of your questions, respond with a breathy, "Oh yeah, I like that".

Mr. Potty Mouth:
Do not answer a single question without using an obscenity. Instead of saying "yes", say enthusiastically, "You bet your @$$!" or instead of "no" shout, "Are you F___ing out of your mind?!?"

Confusion:
Refuse to acknowledge the actual product being sold. If the telemarketer is selling cell phones, ask questions as if they were selling mattresses. The trick is to start off with rather vague questions that could be construed as legitimate (although weird), and work your way to more specific questions. Here's an example for a telemarketer selling cell phones: "How comfortable are they?" "Will I be able to fit it in my bedroom if the room dimensions are 12 x 16" "If I buy this, will I sleep better?" "How thick is the padding?" "Do I get a free box-spring?" When the operator finally catches on and corrects your mistake, say, "Oh, you are selling cell phones? I'm sorry, I already have one." and hang up.

Hannibal:
Some telemarketing calls are consumer surveys. As soon as you realize it is a survey, say in your creepiest voice, "If I help you, Clarice, it will be 'turns' for us. Quid pro quo. I tell you things, you tell me things. Not about this case, though. About yourself. Quid pro quo. Yes or no? Yes or no, Clarice? Poor little Catherine is waiting." This should be followed with a long maniacal laugh...keep laughing until she hangs up.





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Author: SanDiegoPaul Big red star, 1000 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48034 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/1/2002 9:33 PM
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In the past year, telemarketers have become a bigger nuisance in my life than ever before
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Author: NeilCM One star, 50 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48035 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/1/2002 10:29 PM
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Wouldn't it be a whole lot easier just to get an unlisted number?

Neil
free of telemarketers since 1991

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/1/2002 10:31 PM
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Wouldn't it be a whole lot easier just to get an unlisted number?

I just have the answering machine pick up for me. Very few telemarketers get through. And starting in January we'll have a statewide Do-Not-Call system.

Can't wait.

Nancy

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/1/2002 10:58 PM
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And starting in January we'll have a statewide Do-Not-Call system.

Can't wait


Hubby and I are anticipating it like children at Christmas. :)

jenniebez

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Author: NaggingFool Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48040 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/2/2002 12:42 AM
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starting in January we'll have a statewide Do-Not-Call system.

Nancy,
Have you encountered the details of the new system anywhere?

-Megan
another MA Fool

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/2/2002 9:44 AM
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Nancy,
Have you encountered the details of the new system anywhere?
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Nancy,

If you get any information -- please send it to me so that I may send it to the customer service depts of out phone company and if need be the local gov't employee elected to serve me

Jeffy

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Author: TMFSteveS Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48045 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/2/2002 11:48 AM
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<<And starting in January we'll have a statewide Do-Not-Call system.>>

Don't get too excited just yet. Do-Not-Call (DNC) lists are a panacea that politicians use to make us think they're "doing something" about a touchy issue. Always remember, that there are powerful lobbying groups on the other side of this issue.

Exemptions from DNC lists are usually numerous. For instance, any business that has an existing relationship with you can continue to call you. The definition of existing relationship can be pretty loose, too. Also, charities and non-profits are generally excluded. Finally, and this is where the politicians really start to smell pretty bad - political fund-raising calls are almost always exempted from DNC lists. Nice touch, eh?

In the end, an unlisted number and simple "Please don't call me again and remove me from you list" is the best way to reduce unwanted calls.

Steve

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/2/2002 12:26 PM
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In the end, an unlisted number and simple "Please don't call me again and remove me from you list" is the best way to reduce unwanted calls.
===*===

Giving them a prompt dial tone is fairly satisfying too.




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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/2/2002 12:28 PM
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My favorite telemarketer torture comes from my father-in-law. He listens to the entire pitch, asks a million questions, shows incredible interest and then at the very end asks:

- Can I buy this with Food Stamps?

:)

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/2/2002 12:29 PM
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In the end, an unlisted number and simple "Please don't call me again and remove me from you list" is the best way to reduce unwanted calls.

There is a monthly charge, but I love my Caller-ID :) when it displays the number as unavailable, I say yes I am and ignore the phone. If it's important enough, they'll leave a message.

Odee
-haven't dealt with telemarketers in quite some time

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/2/2002 12:35 PM
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He listens to the entire pitch, asks a million questions,
===*===

Actually this is even better than the prompt dial tone [though maybe personally less satisfying] as the last thing they really want is someone taking up their time with no interest in buying. When I was making [urk] cold calls the PDT was actually a good thing as I could go right on to the next doo....prospective client.

Da Mopp

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/2/2002 12:57 PM
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I just say 'Hello', wait for a responce, and then do my answering machin schtick!

M.R. (Quite Amuuusing!~)

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/2/2002 2:12 PM
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I"ve used several of yours already, but I never thought of the "product confusion" one. I'll have to use it next time I get a call.

I've found that some of the operators won't mess with you at all anymore. My old standby is this really silly voice that I use as soon as I can tell it is a telemarketer. I act interested...a little too interested...and I just sound silly. About half of them will hang up even though I could have easily been a real customer that was truly interested.

I have a friend that was so good at messing with them that he actually got a telemarketer to say a prayer with him.

marxtacy
- who rarely gets a phone call from anybody.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/2/2002 2:46 PM
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This is one of the things I like about living in "socialist" Europe.
Lawmakers took a short look at it and outlawed unsolicited telemarketing.
The worst aspect of this activity is the preying on the elderly who have grown weak and defenseless.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/2/2002 2:50 PM
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The worst aspect of this activity is the preying on the elderly who have grown weak and defenseless.
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My Brother-In-Law's mother sufferes from this malady, the inability to hang up on telemarketers, something which I don't understand at all. Good for the Euro Solons.

Raggmopp

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/2/2002 3:54 PM
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Wouldn't it be a whole lot easier just to get an unlisted number?
Neil
free of telemarketers since 1991
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I have an unlisted number and with their random number generator they still keep calling.

I've noticed you're from Canada. Things are probably different over there. The worst telemarketers I get are located in Canada and they're probably not calling their own country. In the State I'm in, I can sue for $500 for every documented and unwanted call I receive after I've officially warned the telemarketer in question not to contact me anymore. This approach works pretty well for any telemarketers located in the United States, but it does nothing for the telemarketers located in Canada.

And to my dismay, I found out that most telemarketers are indeed calling from Canada. Many of them are borderline scam artists. They're probably not calling you, but they are calling me and my colleagues in the US.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/2/2002 4:11 PM
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I signed up with the DNC list here in NYS, and it seems to be working. That, combined with an unlisted number has all but eliminated the annoyances.

Of course, the one drawback is that I now can't have the fun involved with these callers--I can be a rascal. ;-)

By the way...Welcome to the Isle, TMFSteveS! It's great to see you visiting! :-)

Tony
...but I still am...

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/2/2002 4:12 PM
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My favorite telemarketer torture comes from my father-in-law. He listens to the entire pitch, asks a million questions, shows incredible interest and then at the very end asks:

- Can I buy this with Food Stamps


And Bogey too?

Garsh...

This is like having administrators decide to eat lunch in the faculty room.

...the only difference is that here, you guys are welcome to join in. ;-)

Tony
...but I still am...

Off2Aruba

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/2/2002 5:32 PM
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Have you encountered the details of the new system anywhere?

Well, there's this.

http://www.turnto10.com/consumerunit/1592351/detail.html

I like the part about extra fines for those who prey on senior citizens. It won't affect my Mom, since she's in NH, but she never buys anything over the phone anyway.

However, she does listen very patiently and politely to the whole spiel before she says, "No thank you."

Nancy



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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/2/2002 5:51 PM
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-haven't dealt with telemarketers in quite some time

Me neither. Seems to be a combination of:
a) "Not interested, please remove me from your list" *click*
b) just not being home to answer the phone (altho these days I am home for morning calls, but we just don't get that many
c) a period of time during which I had caller ID due to a number of really odd calls including the random-background-noise calls, the foreign-language-wrong-numbers (I really needed a recording of "I'm sorry, you have a wrong number" in about 6 common languages), and
d) not answering the phone because of the weird foreign collect calls - "This is the Operator. Will you accept a collect call from so-and-so in some-country-you've-barely-heard-of?" "No, and tell the idiot he has the wrong number." *click*

They just don't seem to call much anymore.

Kaiti


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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/2/2002 7:15 PM
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A couple of other suggestions.

When they call just tell them that it is not a convenient time but that if they will give you their home phone number you will be glad to call them at home when it is convienent for you. Most of them get the message. I believe this suggestion came from an Ann Landers column.

I often just say that I am not interested. If they still pursue it, I agree to listen then just quietly put the phone down. Soon I hear "Hello, are you there?" Then I'll usually just giggle into the phone.

If they call at supper time as they usually do, I just interrupt them and say something like "Do you really expect me to buy this (or donate or whatever)when you call while I'm trying to get supper ready. I've just got home from work and I've got to feed the family and you call and interrupt me and my supper's going to burn. Don't you realize that this isn't a good time for people. Why do you always call at supper time, etc., etc., etc." I just keep going on like this until they interrupt me and apologize for disturbing me.

My favorite is when they call I just say that my best friend (or spouse, child, parent, partner, whatever) just died a few hours ago and then I just go on and on about how upset I am and what a wonderful person this was and how much the person suffered and how am I going to go one without this person and now I have to go make funeral plans, etc., etc., etc. They don't know what to say and are often afraid to hang up. When they finally do get in a few words about how sorry they are, I just tell them it is ok and that I'm taking a drama class and practicing my homework. I then thank them for taking the time to help me practice and that I've really enjoyed talking to them but that I really have to go. Then I say bye and hang up.

I usually just say that I am not interested. If they just thank me and hang up that's fine. But if they still pursue it, I figure it's their fault that I was able to waste all their time. I just love turning the tables on them.

Rona

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/2/2002 9:11 PM
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Show a little compassion...

Has it occurred to any of you that telemarket callers are fairly low-paid individuals - often young or perhaps disadvantaged - that would probably like to have just about any other job. Like maybe your job, for example.

Telemarketing is not exactly the career of choice for most of us (or for our young adult children/nieces/nephews/parents - but you get the idea, I think).

karola

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/2/2002 9:25 PM
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Has it occurred to any of you that telemarket callers are fairly low-paid individuals - often young or perhaps disadvantaged - that would probably like to have just about any other job. Like maybe your job, for example.

Telemarketing is not exactly the career of choice for most of us (or for our young adult children/nieces/nephews/parents - but you get the idea, I think).


True, the best thing you can do is interrupt them immediately, tell them, "No thank you and please put me on your do not call list, Thank you."

Deannda
And then hang up


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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/2/2002 9:26 PM
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Here's another fun one...

Foreigner

After a pregnant pause say in perfect English (no accents), "I'm sorry, I understand and speak no English." Answer with the same phrase to all subsequent questions until they hang up.

Example;
You: Hello?
Them: Yes, may I speak with Mr. Tom Jones?
You: (pause...) I'm sorry, I understand and speak no English."
Them: Oh. Well is there someone there who does speak English?"
You: (another pause, a little longer) "I'm sorry, I understand and speak no English."

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/2/2002 10:28 PM
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Has it occurred to any of you that telemarket callers are fairly low-paid individuals - often young or perhaps disadvantaged - that would probably like to have just about any other job. Like maybe your job, for example.
===*===

Yes. This is America, you are welcome to try and take my job if you are better at it than I am, no caveats. If you can't take a joke, take a cab. : Þ

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 8:09 AM
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I like trying to sell them something. My kids are usually selling something to support some endevour. "Come on, its for a good cause.", "O.K., how about X, it doesn't cost that much."

For the ones that start out like they know me I just break into a conversation, like I know and miss them. I make up junk about my day, how good it is to hear from them, ask them questions about what they have been doing since last time we chatted. It works best if you never let them talk. Just ramble on for a couple of minutes and then tell them you gotta go. If they get pushy and try to sell me something I either ask them when they got the new job or ask them "When did you start selling Amway? I've been doing it for years. Why didn't you talk to me? I would have got you started blah, blah, blah."

or

Cut them off about 15 seconds into the pitch and tell them "You realize this isn't a secure line." give them another 15 seconds "You know THEY may be listening." give them another 15 seconds shout "Are you trying to get us both busted/killed" and hang up.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 10:29 AM
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Here's one of my favorites - requires a little preparation, tho. Enjoy. :-)

Place a cheap clock radio near the phone. The speaker must be in the top, and the top large enough to hold the handset of the phone. Ask the telemarketer, 'Can you hold for just a second? Thanks.' Place the handset on top of the radio and turn the radio on, which you have thoughtfully preset to religious programming or a really obnoxious talk radio station. Walk away.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 10:38 AM
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I couldn't care less who they are or how much they are paid (or not paid). They are nothing but an annoyance and have no right, as far as I can see, to disturb my privacy and by ringing my unlisted number with unsolicited calls.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 12:16 PM
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They are nothing but an annoyance and have no right, as far as I can see, to disturb my privacy and by ringing my unlisted number with unsolicited calls.



MMMMEEEEEOOOOORRRRRRWWWWW!!!! Would you like a saucer of milk and a scratching post to go with that? Sheesh!

If your number is unlisted they then got it from another source, such as something you may have signed up for, something someone else in your family signed up or one of your credit cards sold their list to them. True, they can be annoying but they are still human beings just like you and me. How do I know this? BECAUSE I WAS ONE OF THEM FOR YEARS! And we never called anyone who did not voluntarilly sign up for a promotion that we were running or buy one of those coupon books that informed them that we would be calling them later.

Thanks to my telemarketing job I was able to see the country, meet my husband and meet a lot of interesting new people.

Deannda
It never hurts to be polite, tell them, "NO, thank you, please put me on your DO NOT CALL LIST," and then quietly hang up

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 12:55 PM
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Deannda, perhaps the company you worked for only called from an opt-in list (although often those opt-ins are remote or sneakwrapped), but many boiler rooms use computerized dialing of random numbers. So yes, an unlisted number of someone who never signed up can be called. In fact, there have been news reports of people getting solicitations on their cell phones (using up their minutes!) because the computer doesn't know a cell number from a wired number.

You worked in the industry, so you have some sympathy for them. Do you listen to their spiels and actually buy stuff from telemarketers? You should understand that the rest of us consider it an annoying intrusion and would never buy anything from a telemarketer.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 1:02 PM
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<<<And we never called anyone who did not voluntarily sign up for a promotion that we were running or buy one of those coupon books that informed them that we would be calling them later.>>>

I know several people who worked as telemarketers when we were in high school. While sometimes call lists were generated as you describe, there were many times where they would literally be handed pages torn from a phonebook. Also, random number generators were used extensively as well. In both cases, nobody had "signed up" for anything.


<<<True, they can be annoying but they are still human beings just like you and me. >>>

Key word here: ANNOYING
I see no problem with turning the tables once in a while. It's the cost of doing business as far as I'm concerned.


<<<Thanks to my telemarketing job I was able to see the country, meet my husband and meet a lot of interesting new people.>>>

Great! But what does this have to do with interrupting my dinner?


<<<tell them, "NO, thank you, please put me on your DO NOT CALL LIST," and then quietly hang up>>>

Unfortunately, many of these companies force you to call a separate 800 number to be taken off the list. I've tried this on three separate occasions and twice I sat on hold for 10 minutes "waiting for the next available operator" before I gave up. The second time it happened was the day telemarketers became fair game to my torments. :-)



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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 1:11 PM
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You worked in the industry, so you have some sympathy for them. Do you listen to their spiels and actually buy stuff from telemarketers? You should understand that the rest of us consider it an annoying intrusion and would never buy anything from a telemarketer.

No, I usually don't buy anything over the phone and yes, I know that not all companies are honest about where they get their lists but honestly to slam an entire industry because of a few bad apples just gets boring after awhile. For example, Mike Tyson is not a nice person and he boxes so all boxers must be bad. O.J. Simpson was/is a wife beather and possible murderer so all football players must be the same, right?

The reasoning just doesn't work.

95% of the people in the industry are merely trying to make a living, a little extra money or just get some experience so they can apply for other jobs. To waste their time and YOURS with all this other nonense is silly and IMHO stupid. If it makes you feel better say this instead, "Listen, rather than waste both our time, let me just say no right now, put me on your do not call list and good bye." Then hang up.

Courtesy will get you on that list, rudeness, playing games and wasting their time will get your number passed around the room and randomly called at all hours sometimes, so beware.

Deannda
Very picky about who I worked for

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 1:14 PM
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Unfortunately, many of these companies force you to call a separate 800 number to be taken off the list. I've tried this on three separate occasions and twice I sat on hold for 10 minutes "waiting for the next available operator" before I gave up. The second time it happened was the day telemarketers became fair game to my torments. :-)


Who is that? I have never had to call another number to be put on the list and if they tell you that, they are lying. If I remember correctly, it is the responsbility of the person who called you to make sure your name and/or number gets on that list, not yours. If they try to tell you that, then ask for a supervisor and tell them in no uncertain terms you have no intention of wasting any more time on this matter, to put your name on the do not call list, get the name of the person you talked to and keep a record of it. IF they call you again, you can then go after them for harrassment.

Deannda
If I didn't interrupt your dinner, I would have never met my husband, duh! ;)

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 1:29 PM
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<<<I have never had to call another number to be put on the list and if they tell you that, they are lying.>>>

I have been told this MANY times...and if they are all lying, that is just MORE reason for me NOT to feel bad about tormenting them with silly games!


<<<...ask for a supervisor and tell them in no uncertain terms you have no intention of wasting any more time on this matter, to put your name on the do not call list, get the name of the person you talked to and keep a record of it. IF they call you again, you can then go after them for harrassment.>>>

Jumping through hoops like this is what motivates me to be uncooperative in the first place. The only way telemarketing is going to stop is when it stops being cost effective...and I like to think that I'm contributing in a tiny way to that end (not to mention having LOADS of fun in the process!).


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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 1:50 PM
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(not to mention having LOADS of fun in the process!).
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Yarrr, keel-haulin' be fun, makin' some lubber walk ter plank be fun, sackin' the port and lootin' the treasury be fun, but spendin' yer time harassing a tellermarketeer? Yer could be usin' that time chasin' the busty servin' wenches and eatin' rum cakes down at the Hook & Leg.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 3:07 PM
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Has it occurred to any of you that telemarket callers are fairly low-paid individuals - often young or perhaps disadvantaged - that would probably like to have just about any other job. Like maybe your job, for example.

And sometimes it's that desperately-needed (and pretty well paying) second or third job.

Kaiti


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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 3:34 PM
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You worked in the industry, so you have some sympathy for them. Do you listen to their spiels and actually buy stuff from telemarketers? You should understand that the rest of us consider it an annoying intrusion and would never buy anything from a telemarketer.

What, you think having a little sympathy for another human being means I'm gonna buy what they sell? Like Deannda, I did telemarketing for some time too (not years, thank goodness, I couldn't stand the job, but darn it payed well). I don't buy anything from them either. I'm not interested in what they sell, and I won't buy anything that someone calls me to sell, period. But I have better things to do with my time than think up ways to waste theirs. You keep blaming the callers. Try blaming the companies that fire them if they don't get at least 3 "no"s or someone irate before letting them go.

I don't like getting sales calls either, but I'm not going to let them run my life or ruin my day when a simple "no and don't call back ever" will suffice. Within a minute, they're forgotten. I don't know how some of you guys are getting all these "boiler room" calls, but most of mine come from legit, legal companies - ones that will actually take you off their lists when you ask them to.

These things aren't going away until they quit making money for companies or until lawmakers legislate them out of existance - and we know how soon either of those will happen. So why spend your time harassing someone who's trying to make a living (generally an honest one, at that)? You can be off the phone and on with your life in under 30 seconds! You want to eliminate the problem? Go after the folks who can do something about it! Blow off companies who call you, flood your legislators with mail! You all know harassing the voice on the other end of the phone accomplishes nothing but a karmic mess. Go for the gusto instead!

OK, that's all for my rant.

Kaiti


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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 3:38 PM
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Unfortunately, many of these companies force you to call a separate 800 number to be taken off the list.

The outfit I worked for just had a "no call" button to press and that did it. It usually took a day or two for the request to run through the entire system so they knew it was off all lists, but one tap with the light pen did the job.

Kaiti


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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 3:42 PM
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*Ring*

Me: Hello?

Them: Hello, Mr. Rottenmoop?

Me: No thanks! *click*

Elapsed time: 2.75 seconds

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 3:44 PM
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*Ring*

Me: Hello?

Them: Hello, may I speak to Mr. Ragonmorp, please?

Me: No!

Elapsed time: 2.83 seconds

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 3:50 PM
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*Ring*

Me: Hello?

Them: Hello, this is Linda Lovely with the Save The Frisky Lingerie Models Campaign, could I speak with Mr. Raggmopp please?

Me: Sorry, not interested. *click*

Elapsed time: 7........WHAT HAVE I JUST DONE?

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 4:08 PM
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And we never called anyone who did not voluntarilly sign up for a promotion that we were running or buy one of those coupon books that informed them that we would be calling them later.

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Boy, that load is hard to believe. Based on the number of calls I get, you must be have been part of the only telemarketing organization in the world who actually did that.

BTW, what I typically do is say 'I'm not interested, thank you. Please remove me from your calling list.' Then I promptly hit the disconnect and go about my business.

What has generated the volume of discontent with telemarking is this country is the volume of calls. If it weren't such an annoying epidemic, there would be a demand for state-wide do not call lists or other remedies.



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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 4:25 PM
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Hey,

The telemarketers annoy me, too.
And I was heartily laughing about your suggestions.

But: those poor ladies at the other end are the wrong target!
If you are jobless long enough, you might end up there yourself.
It's one of the worst places to be, even without your nasty comments.

Financial advisors and insurance sales people are
a better target: morally, because they really make a lot of
money and they really choose that activity for themseves,
and from the fun side (at least when they come to your house),
because you can see their faces.

Cheers,
Schorse

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 4:28 PM
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The Indiana no call list has worked quite well, too.

My husband has this practice: he asks the telemarketer if he can have a number so that he can call them back. He's often told they don't have a central number, at which point he asks for the caller's home number which, of course, they won't give. "So it's okay for you to call and interrupt me at home but I can't call you at home? That's a bummer of a deal, isn't it?" Soon thereafter the call ends.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 4:43 PM
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So why spend your time harassing someone who's trying to make a living (generally an honest one, at that)? You can be off the phone and on with your life in under 30 seconds! You want to eliminate the problem? Go after the folks who can do something about it! Blow off companies who call you, flood your legislators with mail! You all know harassing the voice on the other end of the phone accomplishes nothing but a karmic mess. Go for the gusto instead!

Right on, except I personally feel "honest" is a little borderline. Telemarketing is skating a thin line between honest sales and an invasion of privacy. Actually, I guess one could call that an ethical line rather than an honesty issue, but in any case...

Consulting my heart on the matter of telemarketers, I find that, as always, I can find comfort in The Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would have done unto you." My own corrolary to this is "Show another at least as much respect as s/he shows you." I don't consider it a free license to trade an eye for an eye, but I do think that if someone is rude to me then I am entitled to be rude back (to a lesser or equal extent).

As this applies to telemarketers, I consider each call to be unwelcome, but each caller to be a stranger. As such, the caller deserves to be politely told that their call is not welcome, please add me to the Do-Not-Call list, etc. This is the same courtesy I would appreciate if, for example, I dialed a wrong number.

Granted, I also believe that anyone in the telemarketing business should not be so naive as to believe their call is innocent. It is intrusive, and nobody in that business should expect to be treated as though they are doing nothing wrong. I do believe it is common courtesy to tell people when you don't like what they are doing rather than just blow up at them, which is why I generally give telemarketers one chance to respectfully end the call.

What irks me is when telemarketers feel they are entitled to take my time by using such tactics as (a) "now I'm not selling anything..." (b) talking very quickly so as not to allow me to speak or (c) continuing to sell after I say I'm not interested. I don't owe them anything, and I consider that assumption to be rude; Therefore I have no problem interrupting them (try "OK, stop right there...") and ending the call myself. If they still don't listen, I hang up on them.

So far this much has worked well enough, has kept me karmically satisfied, has given me no reason to pay for Caller ID / an unlisted number, and prevents me from getting frustrated enough to pursue legal recourses or toy with telemarketers. Well, except for my credit card companies:

Citi: "We have a great new offer on balance transfers..."
Me: "Is it 0%?"
Citi: "No."
Me: "Sorry, then. I have no need for any transfers. But call me back if you have any 0% promos--I can always use free money."

Anyone know what to do about the "hang-up" calls, though? Those are the worst.

SpeleoFool.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 4:45 PM
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Best advice that I have read in a long time.



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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 5:05 PM
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I've never been a telemarketer and I don't like to be interrupted by them, but I'd like to remind you that the poor hopeless substandard-income desperate operators who are calling you are not the ones you should be jerking around. Their job sucks to begin with and if they had any other choices, they would not choose a job in telemarketing. To further torture them by pulling pranks on them may be amusing to some people who have nothing better to do with their time and need the sadistic social interaction, but I have discovered that asking telemarketers to remove me from their calling lists eventually works. I get far fewer calls than I used to. I didn't have to be cruel to some struggling wage-earner to accomplish this.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 5:05 PM
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>>when it displays the number as unavailable, I say yes I am and ignore the phone. If it's important enough, they'll leave a message.

I have a system that has recently been brought to the market in NH called (I think) "Call Intercept". If a call comes in with a blocked or an otherwise unavailable number to caller ID, the telco computer intercepts the call and announces to the calling party that the number dialed does not accept calls from blocked numbers. It offers the calling party the option of unblocking the number, or announcing themselves to the computer. If they choose the first option, the call is allowed through; if they choose the second option, the computer rings the phone and if the calling party answers, plays the recording of who is calling and allows you to either accept or deny the call.

If you try to call your own telephone from a blocked number, you are allowed to enter a PIN which immediately allows the call through.

Since we turned the system on we have not received a single telemarketing call. It costs $4 a month, but IMO is well worth it.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 5:55 PM
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Annoying the heck out of telemarketers may be amusing for a while, but for me that didn't address the main problem;I was interrupted and someone was consuming my time.

Out here in Qwest land we can, for the small price of $5.95 per month, get a "no solicitation" message. It says to all callers not pre-programmed, "I'm sorry you have reached a number that does not accept solicitations. If you are a solicitor please remove this number from your list and hang up. If you wish to continue to this call please press #1." I program in numbers I don't want to hear the message, so my family and friends aren't regularly annoyed and let the automatic message do the rest. I don't have to interrupt whatever I'm doing to be annoyed or be annoying.

Yeah, it bites to have to pay not to be bothered but it beats all other alternatives I've tried. It also beats the unlisted number hassles -we had one when I was a kid and I hated it. The only thing that it doesn't stop are callers with recorded messages. Since recorded sales messages aren't legal in my state I figure these guys are so unprincipaled that nothing I do will stop them. Fortunately these callers are few and far between, and easy to hang up on.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 6:05 PM
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Since we turned the system on we have not received a single telemarketing call. It costs $4 a month, but IMO is well worth it.

You don't mind paying the phone company money to solve a problem that THEY created?

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 6:12 PM
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You don't mind paying the phone company money to solve a problem that THEY created?

How valuable is your time? How much aggrivation are you willing to put up with? One can argue that the phone companies created the problem, but that doesn't make the problem go away. If a small fee gives me quiet evenings then so be it.

ARM

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 6:14 PM
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Yeah alright, its easy to get rid of the human callers. But how do you stop the machines, that call during the day when you're not at home, and leave one to three minute messages about services like used cars, real estate, funerals, mortgages, etc. I used to come home each day to find my answering machine tape full, with 30 minutes of machine generated messages. The only way to tell them "do not call" is to call them back. Not my idea of easy or fun.

I finally just stopped using a land line and now ONLY have a cell phone. Occasionally one of my credit card companies calls me on the cell phone, but the last one that did- I cancelled the card immediately. I told them I didn't care about being on their no-call list- I had a better way to make sure they didn't call again. My student lender telemarketed me once- I transferred my loans to another lender and sent the President of the company a letter saying why I did it. A VP replied with a profuse apology- and called me personally to apologize- which annoyed me even more.

If you are serious about not being called you should also have your credit files marked as DO NOT CALL and DO NOT MAIL if you want to stop the credit card applications. All three bureaus have numbers to call to have this done, and it does work. I no longer get junk mail credit applications. Now if I could just stop the pizza delivery junk on my door.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 6:25 PM
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Lots of times the telemarketers are calling about selling you vinyl siding or they want to clean your carpet. I give them a fake address and tell them to come on over. This one guy called back and told me I wasn't home when he came over, and I said, "Can you come back tomorrow?" He said sure. The next day he called back and said I wasn't there again, and I said, "I had an emergency come up. Can you come back tomorrow?" This guy made three trips before I finally told him, "Lookyhere, pop, you're kind of slow catching on, so I'll spell it out to you that I'm just running you around."

Whatever they're selling, I say, "Yeah, I'll buy it." I've had a bunch of stuff sent to me, but I've never paid for any of it.

Telephone solicitors used to bother me, but now I get a good laugh out of them and enjoy it when they call.

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Yeah alright, its easy to get rid of the human callers. But how do you stop the machines, that call during the day when you're not at home, and leave one to three minute messages about services like used cars, real estate, funerals, mortgages, etc. I used to come home each day to find my answering machine tape full, with 30 minutes of machine generated messages. The only way to tell them "do not call" is to call them back. Not my idea of easy or fun.

???

I think I've had two timeshares and one Credit Counseling Service leave messages on the machine. All received a return call asking to be removed from their database.

I must be doing something right. Now, if I could just figure out what it is. . .

Nancy

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 6:29 PM
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Fabulous! I can't wait to try these.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 6:33 PM
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Now if I could just stop the pizza delivery junk on my door.
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Or the window-washers/auto-repair/landscaping jerks who staple or NAIL their advertisements to our mailbox.
Or the junk faxers.
Or the $#*&! SPAMMERS.

Telemarketing is at least not, by definition illegal (although some telemarketers do break the law), like these.

A polite (but firm - and quick) "Add me to your DNC list" does the trick for me, although I will admit to not receiving too many calls. I will also admit that I've happily fantasized using many of these "Fun with Telemarketer" conversations. I suppose if I ever get hit with a rude enough salesperson, I might.

There is a balance to be struck between the recognition that some of these telemarketers are just average-joe-working-stiffs and the fact that the people who telemarketers annoy are in no way responsible for said telemarketer's being "stuck" with a crappy job that they know PO's people. I have plenty of compassion and apply it liberally, but don't abuse my resources and blame it on your own bad luck/oppressed state/poor judgement/situation/whatever.

YMMV

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 6:38 PM
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Yeah alright, its easy to get rid of the human callers. But how do you stop the machines, that call during the day when you're not at home, and leave one to three minute messages about services like used cars, real estate, funerals, mortgages, etc. I used to come home each day to find my answering machine tape full, with 30 minutes of machine generated messages. The only way to tell them "do not call" is to call them back. Not my idea of easy or fun.
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Wow, nasty. In Washington State (where we always say "state" for fear of being confused with the "other" less desirable Washington) it is illegal to use recorded messages. You might want to do a little lobbying of your state lege. If nothing else my no-solicitation message only lets them record part of the message so it takes less machine time. They have to blow about 3/4 of what they are saying to get past the message and to my machine. And I only get these about once a month with a state statute.

ARM

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 6:53 PM
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"Here are a few strategies I've come up with. Some I've tried already, and others I am itching to try in the near future."

Yes, you could do all of those things...if you had the time to waste or didn't mind tangling up your line, but telemarketers get paid by the hour. I know...I did this for about two months part time(I'm in college) and got an education on how things work.

First, where did they get your number? Usually from YOUR credit card company. They ( the credit card company) will sell your information to telemarketing firms unless you specifically ask them not to.I just had to replace all my credit cards (long story) and in the envelopes of some companies along with your new credit card, they have a form that must be sent in if you DON'T want you information shared with other parties.

Telemarketing firms also have automated dialing systems that change the number automatically and redial until the get a number with a ring.If no one answers, it's kept on record and re-used.

You can also take care of the problem by telling the person on the other end of the line to put you on their " do not call" list. By law they aren't supposed to call you after 10 P.M. or before 8 A.M. (I think it's 8)If you ask to be put on their list they may tell you it will take 30 days,but I would still take note of when you made the request anyway. You can take them to court, I think the max you can sue for is $500.

I am not defending telemarketing, just giving some more options. When I finally quit the job (They WILL lie to you to sell you something) I had to threaten legal action to get my final paycheck.I mean I actually went to court and filed the papers.


J.P.


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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 7:22 PM
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I just wanted to add one more opinion on the state Do-Not-Call registry idea. I live in NY, where this law has been in effect for just over a year (https://www.nynocall.com/index.html). Even though I never actually signed up for the least (always keep meaning to one of these days...) I have noticed the volume of telemarketing calls dropped drastically. I can't remember the last time I got an unsolicited call. I'm guessing the regulations are too onerous on many companies, and they have chosen to target other locales.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 7:35 PM
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First I need to let you know that I've never worked for a telemarketer and I don't know any telemarketers. The problem with your "Revenge" is that the only one that you are hurting is the person who, unfortunately, is desperate enough to try and make a living by attempting to sell you something. These people aren't the "inconsiderate bastards" you're upset about. By wasting their time, you're not hurting the real "bastards" who hire these people and are responsible for the calls. You're hurting the little guy. If you can't do anything constructive to hurt the big guys, why not just hang up or spend the few dollars a month on caller ID?

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 7:55 PM
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I think I've had two timeshares and one Credit Counseling Service leave messages on the machine. All received a return call asking to be removed from their database.

Same. I think I've gotten maybe 3 recorded ads on my machine. Maybe. I don't even bother calling back unless I'm bored - I just delete the message and that's it.

I must be lucky.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 8:18 PM
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OK, first the methods I've used on the telemarketers. In my situation I have to answer the phone, even with blocked numbers.

TM: Can I speak with the person who (fill in blank).
Me: Yes. That would be Mr. Dialtone. Let me get him for you.

(I have actually hard three and four return calls for Mr. Dialtone.)


TM: This is XXX with YYY company ...
Me: Oh, I'm so glad you called today. I sitting on the this pile of money trying to figure out how to get rid of some of it.

TM: This is XXX with YYY company ...
Me: Ok, but before you get started I charge for my time so I need to get your credit card number.

TM: I calling with a survey about XXX.
Me: So you are charging your cuustomer to perform a survey?
TM: Right.
Me: So what do I get for participating in your survey?
TM: Nothing
Me: Then why should I participate?

TM: This is XXX with YYY company ...
Me: So you get you paycheck from YYY company?
TM: No, we represent YYY company.
Me: So who do you work for?
TM: ZZZ Company (usually they hang up here or shortly after)
Me: I need to speak with your supervisor about the Do Not Call List for both YYY and ZZZ.
Supervisor:(If I get one) Can I help you?
Me: I need your company name and address.
Supervisor: (if they don't hang up) Usually some lame excuse like "We don't have an address".
Me: Your company is making telemarketing phone calls. By federal law your company is required to provide a copy of your privacy policy. I also want to be placed on the list of numbers your company WILL NEVER CALL AGAIN.

TM: This is XXX with YYY company ...
Me: Good, because we have a company policy that we will NEVER violate. We do not do business with ANYONE who participates in any form of telemarketing.


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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 8:19 PM
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Other ideas;

If the caller is good and you need office help, set up an interview. Ping the telemarketer and help your bottom line all at once. Most call centers are near large cities so you may get lucky.

Ask if the caller uses the product. If not, why? What's wrong with it? What product does he/she use?

Put the cat/dog on the phone.

Take the phone into the bathroom with you.

If you are having a party, pass the phone around.

Ask for the caller's ususal dinner time and home phone number. Promise to call on a worknight.

But the best line that I get to use for real is when I get a call at work. I'm at the IRS!

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 8:22 PM
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The tactic of "turning the tables" on the telemarketers would be wonderful if there were some way to extract vengeance on those truly responsible, not the beleagered hourly employees, many of them stuck in an awful job they like no more than you. To me, the Holy Grail would be some means of calling the computer which has me on its dialing list, or places the calls for the marketers, and doing so in some way to prevent it from bothering me or anyone else. Those marketers who use the new technology allowing them to leave messages on our answering machines, often preventing important calls from reaching us, are even more entitled to some electronic vengeance. Thus far, laws do not protect us from the telephone assaults -- and it is the banks, satellite and time-share companies, and others which have thus far won all of the legislative battles. They, not their employees, are the enemy. Ironically, when we call them, it is virtually impossible to find a human voice. Maybe the best solution would be to force companies to hire those who call us to take on the more rewarding task of answering our calls. If you agree with me, push 3 and listen to the music.
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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 8:29 PM
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John & Laurie,
Those are all good. I have a friend who got rid of them by an approach similar to yuour last one. She asks why are you calling? Why are you selling that? Dont you feel bad about all the people in the world who cannot have whatever it is your selling? ETC.
Said it works great.
I am in Indanapolis, and we have a "no call' policy. You call an office of the Governor and ask to be put on the "no call" list. I am not sure if it stared in the city and is now the entire state, but
since I went on it about 6 months ago, the only calls I have had are charities; they are exempt.
Think about lobbying for that in your city or state. It's great; no interrupted dinners! RM

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 8:57 PM
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Greetings!
To my surprise I have recently discovered that a telemarketer called me from India! Why not export public schools to Siberia or Greenland?
Yours truly,
reinel

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 8:58 PM
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And for those of you in the Lone Star State:

http://www.texasnocall.com/

Prof

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Author: RigginRat Big red star, 1000 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48118 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 9:00 PM
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Seein' as this wuz in my mailbox this evenin', I jus' coodn't help makin' sum kinda comment.

I's the "RigginRat" frum over at "Crows Nest", where we has sum inane fun type conversashuns frum time ta time.

Any time I see's sumpfin' 'bout telemarketers, my cute li'l ears perks up. Anybuddy whuts ever called me has ta goes frue a "screenin'" process where they gots ta listen ta my annoyin' message witch reads as follows:

"You'se reached the RigginRat residense at 555-555-5555. If you'se one o' them pesty telemarketers, removes this nummer frum yer lis',as required by law. Uvers, please leeve a message..."

Mos' o' them idjits hangs up right af'er they hears the "remove this nummer" comment.

Tho I fount the poster o' this original pos' ta has sum very amuzin' responses, but I ain't 'bout ta go frue all that when I's tryin' ta eat my din din.

Ever now an' than, I gits sum stoopid machine talkin' ta my machine, witch jus' goes ta prove ta my cute self how stoopid they is.

An' 'fore ya comes ta sum kind conclushun 'bout my credenshuls, I's jus' a stooped rat whif buck teef. It's a heredity fing... (plus they gots no skools fer rats.... exscooze my spellin'....)

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 9:46 PM
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I'm at the IRS!
===*===

Bless you, Sir. I cannot wait 'til I have to pay huge, HUGE amounts of quarterly estimated income tax from short term capital gains. In the mean time, brother, can you spare a dime?

Raggmopp
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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 10:38 PM
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I don't know how some of you guys are getting all these "boiler room" calls,

I can tell you why. Because they did waste a boiler room caller's time once, gave them crap and now that number is being passed from operator to operator and company to company because beleive it or not, when things are slow in some of the more shady telemarketing businesses this is what they will do for jollies. I know this because I worked for a company like this for about all of 2 hours before I figured out what was going on and got up and walked out.

Deannda
Trust me when I say, it's better to say NO and hang up

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 10:43 PM
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I can tell you why. Because they did waste a boiler room caller's time once, gave them crap and now that number is being passed from operator to operator and company to company because beleive it or not, when things are slow in some of the more shady telemarketing businesses this is what they will do for jollies. I know this because I worked for a company like this for about all of 2 hours before I figured out what was going on and got up and walked out.

Aaah, that could explain why I don't get as many calls as other people. The only extended conversation I had with a telemarketer was when I had to ask three times, "Are you a telemarketer?" I finally had to point out that state law required that she identify herself when asked, and when she admitted that she was, indeed, a telemarketer, I asked to be put on the DNC list and hung up.

The answering machine handles most of the calls - not just because of telemarketers, but because there are two different doctors with similar phone numbers, and I got tired of explaining that I was not, in fact, the doctor.

I don't even play one on TV.

Nancy

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/3/2002 11:24 PM
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The bottom line to EVERYONE who is bothered by telemarketers -

If it didn't pay - they would not do it!

Do your part in telling everyone who calls to sell you anything that you do NOT do business with ANYONE who telemarkets. Period. If there are no sales there would be no reason for them to call.

In the mean time, have them put you on the Do Not Call list.

By the way, I was on the Texas No Call List from the day it was first announced. Until the day the list was 'enforced' (it was many months from first announcement until they were supposed to stop calling) it should have been called the Texas Please Call List. After the first day of 'enforcement' it seems to have helped some. But not much.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/4/2002 12:09 AM
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The strangest call we ever got was from some guy crying - I mean really crying (fake, I'm sure). If he didn't get work for the people that worked for him, they'd have no jobs - this is some kind of service company - don't remember -painting, cleaning, roofs, whatever, but hr kept calling. It was a recording, and not worth listening to through the end, but you weren't taken in by the 'passion'. I'm sure Tea must have gotten these too. What a scam.

Lennie

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/4/2002 9:07 AM
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OK, first the methods I've used on the telemarketers. In my situation I have to answer the phone, even with blocked numbers.

TM: Can I speak with the person who (fill in blank).
Me: Yes. That would be Mr. Dialtone. Let me get him for you.

This cracked me up and I know so many jokes that I rarely get hit with anything that really makes me laugh.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/4/2002 10:27 AM
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Me: Yes. That would be Mr. Dialtone. Let me get him for you.

LOL, that IS funny.

I innocently thought that a tele-marketer WAS one of my friends whom I KNEW was looking for a job. I acknowledged this by congratulating him (one his new job), and, asking him how it liked his new job so far, and, if the pay was good, etc. He answered all my questions, and, it wasn't until a couple hours after we had hung up that I realized that it WASN'T my friend. LOL... too funny.

Two quick suggestions on stopping tele-marketers:
1)Buy a Tele-Zapper - electronically removes your number from auto-mated electronic dialing systems.
2)Buy a little gadget that records a 10 second message and hangs up (I have seen a few of these, ie, RadioShack, Gadgets n' Gizmos, etc). Simply record "Thank you for your call, please remove me from your call list". When they (tele-marketers) call, simply press the button on the gizmo and hang-up.

Having read through this post, though, I think a variation on one of the themes (saying yes, I take it, and then giving a false address) may actually have a better application:

What if everyone these boards, and elsewhere, were to say yes, to whatever hard goods are being sold, and give the address to thier local FBI headquarters? Given the current 'state' with the smell of terrorism in the air I am sure that they (FBI) would have no choice but to investigate. If it got out of hand, ie, too many packages arriving, I'm SURE the feds could have the practice stopped. Even if they didn't, I know that I would be a little shaken if an FBI agent called ME asking questions about my business practices, lol ...... and, yes, of course this is all a joke ...... but it WOULD be funny to have the FBI shut down tele-marketing firms. :)

Have a great day all.

T



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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/4/2002 10:33 AM
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I've been playing with telemarketers for years. My record is about 25 minutes.
She called during dinner (of course), selling replacement windows. I had convinced her that my house had no windows. I told her that when the house was sided, during the energy crunch of the 70's, we just sided over everything but one door. The conversation went on about how efficient the house was without windows and how efficient her windows were. I remember ending the phone call with a question. "Do you have replacement doors?"
I rarely get telemarketers on the phone these days. I think I've been "blacklisted". Too bad, really, I miss the challenge of stealing their valuable phone time...

Don

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/4/2002 11:45 AM
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What if everyone these boards, and elsewhere, were to say yes, to whatever hard goods are being sold, and give the address to thier local FBI headquarters?

I know this was meant somewhat facetiously, but wouldn't you rather have the FBI spend their time more constructively?

That said, I believe telemarketers will only stop annoying people when their bottom line dictates it. If a legitimate, ethical way is found to tie their annoying business practices to a drop in their income, these companies will change - but probably not before.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/4/2002 12:14 PM
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If a legitimate, ethical way is found to tie their annoying business practices to a drop in their income, these companies will change - but probably not before.
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I remember seeing something on the tube about this and IIRC a response rate of .001% is sufficient to keep 'em smilin' and dialin'. That's one "hit" for every thousand calls. We're doomed.

Raggmopp

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/4/2002 12:36 PM
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I have a sure fire way of getting telemarketers to stop calling. I politely listen to their pitch then say, "Gee, I'd like to buy that, but first my wife and I have to get a job and get out of bankruptcy." They normally hang up and never call back. Further, I get off their list. I used to get 3 or 4 calls a night. Now, I only get one or two a month.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/4/2002 1:12 PM
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Fellow telemarketing victoms,
One of my favorite things is recieving these calls. When the person onthe other end starts their speel I interrupt them to say "I'm very busy at the moment. Give me your home number and I'll call you back when I get a chance." This seems to horrify these geeks.When they baulk at the idea I insist that if they don't want me calling them at home, " don't #@*&ing call me at home!!!!!"
This seems to have the desired effect.
Have a great day, Ghastlypc

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/4/2002 3:14 PM
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So many of you seem to have so much fun with telemarketers! (He said incredulously.)

I don't think they're really that much fun at all. (He said with a sniff.) In fact, (he said rather drolly), they're not worth the time and bother it would cost me to have fun with them. (He gave the phone a smug look.)

"RING!" "RING!" "Hello, Hellooo, Who? What? Look here my good man, I've neither the time nor the inclination to listen to your blathering, rambling spiel about sanitary loo wafers! If you persist with this lunacy I shall get irate and say nasty things to you! So, be a good chap, shut your bloomin' gob, and stop phoning me up!"

"RING!" "RING!" "RING!" "Hello, said abruptly, You again!? Look here you mindless, panty-waisted twit..!! I, I told you at last phone up that I was NOT to be bloody-well bothered again with you or your bleedin' sanitary, bloody loo, bloody waffers!! If you phone me up again, I shall track you down, demasculinize you, and shove your bleedin', bloody loo waffers up your toady-little arse! Now go away before I really loose my bloody temper and taunt you a second time!!" "WHAM" (Phone meeting receiver)

"RING!" Evil look in the direction of the phone...
"RING!" Uncontrollable twitching and frothing at the mouth begins...
"RING!" Heads starts spinning around...
"RING!" Steam spewing from all bodily orafaces...
"RING!" All objects on route to phone stomped and driven asunder...
"RIN/-"You F%#$ing B@st@rd! I F@#$in' told you, you bloody little @$$-F$@*in' pusss-filled, sweaty, swollen, maggot-infested, pig-sucking, hamster-F@$#ing, whimpering, bleedin' excuse for a S#!t-brained, little snot-oozing, bloody sanitary, bloody loo, bloody waffer, bloody salesman!!! Go an bloody-well F@#$ yourself with your bloody F*%$in' Waffer-thin, loo sanitary, unpollutionizer-thingy!!!! You son of a Mother.. "Oh!"...He, He, Heeellooo Mother...

See what I mean?

M.R.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/4/2002 3:24 PM
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Sometimes I just simply say:

"Yes, I see..., but can it slice, dice, and make Julian Fries?"

That gets 'um everytime.

M.R.

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/4/2002 4:11 PM
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"WHAM" (Phone meeting receiver)

You know the problem with that? With all of our wonderful, touch-tone phones, we no longer have that intense satisfaction. All the caller gets is a quiet hang-up and a dial tone.

Thankfully, we kept a couple of our old, faithful dial-ups. They're great for those 'slamming down in the caller's ear feeling of satisfaction'. Also, when the electricity goes out, those little sweethearts stay in operation. Ahh, the good old days!

Lennie

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/4/2002 5:11 PM
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So why does our statewide Do Not Call system in texas not work? Who are all those people calling our machine & hanging up?

joycets

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/4/2002 5:26 PM
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So why does our statewide Do Not Call system in texas not work? Who are all
those people calling our machine & hanging up?


Are we thinking the same thing? You answer and all you get is dead air? We get a lot of that. It drives DH nutz. I think it's just auto dialing, and they didn't get to you yet. What's your opinion?

Lennie

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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/4/2002 7:45 PM
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We used to have people calling to clean our carpets all the time, thing is the only carpet we have in the house is some free piece in the bathroom that is where the dog slept when he was sick, & an 8 foot square definitely isn't worth anything to clean, and we've told them they can come out & try to find a carpet to clean.

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Author: EggManFace Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48154 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/5/2002 10:37 AM
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For those of us with a less wonderful sense of humor, and who live in Pennsylvania, I can offer a much more bland solution for the nuisance of Telemarketers. Harrisburg, in their infinite wisdom, and as a way to get votes for the Attorney General cum Gubenatorial candidate, has set up a site http://www.nocallsplease.com/ where you can register yourself for "No-Calls List". This list, updated quarterly, will allow registrants to effectively mass-opt-out. Telemarketers will no longer be allowed to call you save for some pretty particular circumstances (that might or might not be holes they'll figure out how to exploit).

Of course, my college roommate and longtime friend Rone-dog was always best at this game you so amusingly refer to. I'd come home from class and 10-minutes would pass before I realized he didn't have a family-member on the line but rather some poor, unsuspecting schmuck who was buried nose-deep in a conversation he had no chance to escape. He had me in stitches.

Me? I just don't have the patience and usually hang up as soon as I hear that signature pause before the shpiel starts.

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Author: alison347 Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48166 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/7/2002 11:59 AM
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Did you ever stop to think for one moment that telemarketers are actual people just trying to do a job - and all they get is hassled from jerks like you? No, I am not a telemarketer and never have been. But, who knows, someday I may need to be - and have to suffer people like you who apparently have plenty of time on their hands. Get a life.

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Author: Raggmopp Big funky green star, 20000 posts Top Favorite Fools Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48167 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/7/2002 2:03 PM
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I still think a cheerful "No thanks" or "Not interested" and a PRD is the best way to go.

Raggmopp
PRD? Prompt Rapid Disconnect

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Author: Odee Big funky green star, 20000 posts Feste Award Nominee! Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48168 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/7/2002 2:07 PM
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I still think a cheerful "No thanks" or "Not interested" and a PRD is the best way to go.

Why not simply a WOOT and click from the Raggmopp home???

Odee
-PRW: Prompt Rapid Woot

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Author: Raggmopp Big funky green star, 20000 posts Top Favorite Fools Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48169 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/7/2002 2:12 PM
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Why not simply a WOOT and click from the Raggmopp home???
===*===

Thats a terrific idea, Odee!

*ring*

Them: "May I speak to Mr. Wrackpoop, please?"

Me: "WOOT" <click>

LOL

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Author: wilauc Big red star, 1000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48182 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/8/2002 12:13 AM
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Did you ever stop to think for one moment that telemarketers are actual people just trying to do a job - and all they get is hassled from jerks like you? No, I am not a telemarketer and never have been. But, who knows, someday I may need to be - and have to suffer people like you

And if we make just a couple of minor changes:

Did you ever stop to think for one moment that con men are actual people just trying to do a job - and all they get is hassled from jerks like you? No, I am not a con man and never have been. But, who knows, someday I may need to be - and have to suffer people like you

Nearer to the truth in many cases.



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Author: SpeleoFool Big red star, 1000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48212 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/8/2002 2:42 PM
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...No, I am not a telemarketer and never have been. But, who knows, someday I may need to be...

I was, for about an hour. I was looking for a summer job just out of high school and found a local gym that was looking for help. It turns out they wanted me to make cold calls and tell people they had won a free trial membership. I found the experience so distasteful that I got up and left, and I never collected a check for my time.

I'd rather mow lawns or mop floors if it came down to it. Nobody needs to be a telemarketer.

SpeleoFool.

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Author: JohnAndLori Three stars, 500 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48253 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/9/2002 1:14 PM
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<<<Did you ever stop to think for one moment that telemarketers are actual people just trying to do a job - and all they get is hassled from jerks like you? .>>>

Again, changing just a few words:

Did TELEMARKETERS ever stop to think for one moment that PEOPLE LIKE ME are actual people just trying to EAT DINNER- and all WE get is hassled from jerks like TELEMARKETERS?

<<<...people like you who apparently have plenty of time on their hands. Get a life.>>>

I have a life, and wish that telemarketers would stop infringing upon it. BTW, what difference is it to you how much free time I have on my hands?

<<<No, I am not a telemarketer and never have been. But, who knows, someday I may need to be - and have to suffer...>

There is a Cost Of Doing Business in ANY industry. There are pros and cons to working ANY job. IMHO, when a telemarketer initiates the call, they are opening themselves up to the whimsical reactions of the person answering the call, be it a quick click, or a long dragged out Anthony Hopkins impression...it's the nature of the business. If you don't like shoveling sh%t, don't work on a horse farm. If you don't like interrupting people's lives and taking the subsequent abuse, don't work for a telemarketing company.


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Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/9/2002 1:28 PM
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If you don't like shoveling sh%t, don't work on a horse farm. If you don't like interrupting people's lives and taking the subsequent abuse, don't work for a telemarketing company.


Let me know when some civility comes back to the board.

Deannda
Til then, LATER ALL!

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Author: JohnAndLori Three stars, 500 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48255 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/9/2002 1:37 PM
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<<<Let me know when some civility comes back to the board.>>>

Here, here!

Let's bury this dead horse!



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Author: JPLenny Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48256 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/9/2002 1:53 PM
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Let me know when some civility comes back to the board

Or you could just hit the Ignore Thread link.

...just a suggestion

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Author: FiddleDeeDee Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48273 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/9/2002 9:02 PM
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Let me know when some civility comes back to the board.

Deannda


Amen, Deannda.

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Author: corse Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48281 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/10/2002 5:01 AM
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You haven't been getting lessons form The Knesset of Israel have you?

Corse

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Author: utahtea Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48289 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/10/2002 11:07 AM
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Yeah alright, its easy to get rid of the human callers. But how do you stop the machines, that call during the day when you're not at home, and leave one to three minute messages about services like used cars, real estate, funerals, mortgages, etc. I used to come home each day to find my answering machine tape full, with 30 minutes of machine generated messages. The only way to tell them "do not call" is to call them back. Not my idea of easy or fun.

===*===

???

I think I've had two timeshares and one Credit Counseling Service leave messages on the machine. All received a return call asking to be removed from their database.

I must be doing something right. Now, if I could just figure out what it is. . .

Nancy,

As soon as you figure it out, PLEASE TELL ME HOW YOU DO IT!!!!

I always tell telemarketers to take me off their calling list before they get started. This has worked very well with live people.

We hardly get people calling us anymore, BUT the RECORDED ones, which are illegal in California are DRIVING ME CRAZY. We get them on our answer machine and they call when I'm at home. When I'm at home I listen to the end because most times they have an option to be taken off their calling list. What I hate most about these calls is they don't give you any information about themselves. No name, no phone number. If you want information you have to usually leave your name and phone number because these companies know what they are doing isn't legal.

We had four messages on our answering machine when we got back. Three were recorded telemarketers. I got one yesterday when we got home and they had the option of speaking to a real person. When I got that person I asked for their name and company phone number which he gave me. I think I might try calling my Attorney General's Office to see if anything can be done.

Utahtea

....and I am
Her Royal Majesty the Queen of the Isle of Revenge trying to catch up!





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Author: utahtea Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48315 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/10/2002 10:08 PM
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Thats a terrific idea, Odee!

*ring*

Them: "May I speak to Mr. Wrackpoop, please?"

Me: "WOOT" <click>

LOL


Will I have to pay royalties if I do that too?

Me: "Take me off your calling list. WOOT" <click>

Utahtea

....and I am
Her Royal Majesty the Queen of the Isle of Revenge






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Author: Raggmopp Big funky green star, 20000 posts Top Favorite Fools Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48319 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/10/2002 10:32 PM
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Me: "Take me off your calling list. WOOT" <click>
~~~*~~~

Ka-Ching!

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Author: utahtea Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48329 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/11/2002 2:17 AM
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Let me know when some civility comes back to the board.

I know where to find ya and I'll let you know if things get better by the time I get caught up. As soon as I finish here, I'll be over there:)

Utahtea

....and I am
Her Royal Majesty the Queen of the Isle of Revenge






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Author: utahtea Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48330 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/11/2002 2:20 AM
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Or you could just hit the Ignore Thread link.

...just a suggestion


Hold on, I was late to the party! I posted to this thread, ya don't want to miss them jems do ya? You could always hit the frowny face.

Utahtea

....and I am
Her Royal Majesty the Queen of the Isle of Revenge






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Author: AnneOwens Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48817 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/27/2002 1:47 AM
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This was hilarious. If I had more time, I'd try it. Another one I just thought of is, just keep saying "hello" as if you can't hear them at all and finally hang up! I just use Caller ID and only answer calls from people I know. I have an answering machine if it's important. My sister bought a gaget that sounds like the phone company and tells computer generated callers that the number is no long in service. They may take you off their list. She says it helps. Anne

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Author: AnneOwens Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 48819 of 86536
Subject: Re: Fun With Telemarketers Date: 10/27/2002 1:50 AM
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If you want to get even with mail solicitors, when they send you an envelope with postage paid, just put their literature in it and send it back with no return address, so they will have to pay the postage. I wouldn't do this to charitable organizations, but it works well for politicians you don't like! Anne

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