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Author: Colovion Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 137228  
Subject: Funny Fallon Video Date: 10/5/2012 10:29 AM
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I'm not a huge fan of Fallon, but I did like this skit on his show regarding Lehrer's inability to really do much to keep the debate on the schedule he wanted to:

http://gawker.com/5949183/jimmy-fallon-offers-a-slightly-exa...

/If 0bama had actually done what he is portrayed as doing in the video he probably would have been more effective, lol!
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Author: drebbin Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 106865 of 137228
Subject: Re: Funny Fallon Video Date: 10/5/2012 10:55 AM
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Colovion: I'm not a huge fan of Fallon, but I did like this skit on his show regarding Lehrer's inability to really do much to keep the debate on the schedule he wanted to:

Yeah, funny. Although about 3 minutes too long (out of 3:30). BTW, the 0bama stand-in was pretty good. SNL has never managed to get anyone even remotely decent. Which is mitigated by the fact that they can't bring themselves to make a joke about him anyway.

The debate was more substantive than just about any I can recall, and I would chalk that up to the light-handed moderation. It will probably never happen again, since left-wingers are scapegoating him. But regardless of performance (go back to the Bush-Gore debates that Bush won, this is still true), the debates are less useful when the moderator injects himself and his opinions into it and cuts people off mid-sentence when they are actually saying something of value. The moderator should make sure that the candidates actually answer the questions asked, rather than filibuster and go on to an entirely different topic. Lehrer could have done that more, but still it was better than trying to steal airtime.

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Author: TheDope1 Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 106868 of 137228
Subject: Re: Funny Fallon Video Date: 10/5/2012 11:38 AM
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That was pretty good ;)

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Author: Colovion Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 106872 of 137228
Subject: Re: Funny Fallon Video Date: 10/5/2012 12:31 PM
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The debate was more substantive than just about any I can recall, and I would chalk that up to the light-handed moderation.

I agree. I just remember the debate with the lights that would flash letting the participants know how long they had left (and I don't even remember if it was a primary or general election debate, or how long ago it was), that's obviously all I remember from the debate.

Lehrer certainly didn't inject any partisanship into the debate, so that was a huge relief! But still he didn't do much of anything to keep it "on task" so to speak, they didn't even get to all of the topics that they were meant to cover. Not the end of the world, but I can see why there is criticism of his handling of it.

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Author: drebbin Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 106875 of 137228
Subject: Re: Funny Fallon Video Date: 10/5/2012 1:27 PM
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Colovion: But still he didn't do much of anything to keep it "on task" so to speak, they didn't even get to all of the topics that they were meant to cover. Not the end of the world, but I can see why there is criticism of his handling of it.

Right. Which was more bad planning than anything else. He had a way too aggressive agenda, and would have had to have a very heavy moderating hand, preventing much serious discussion or back-and-forth, in order to get to it. Much better to err on the side of not getting through everything on his list. I would like to think that the take-home message for the future would be to have a less-aggressive agenda and allow the banter to go on as long as it doesn't become a talking points battle. But again, since left-wingers are looking to blame the moderator and format for 0bama not winning, that probably won't happen.

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Subject: Re: Funny Fallon Video Date: 10/5/2012 2:50 PM
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Right. Which was more bad planning than anything else. He had a way too aggressive agenda, and would have had to have a very heavy moderating hand, preventing much serious discussion or back-and-forth, in order to get to it. Much better to err on the side of not getting through everything on his list. I would like to think that the take-home message for the future would be to have a less-aggressive agenda and allow the banter to go on as long as it doesn't become a talking points battle. But again, since left-wingers are looking to blame the moderator and format for 0bama not winning, that probably won't happen.
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You would think since their candidate is always the smarter and better informed candidate and invariably without skeletons in the closet or blemishes on the record that the left would endorse the candidates actually being able to address each other with a mediator to get them started and keep it civil, plus reign them in, if they get too boring

I think Lehrer did and excellent job. This actually resembled a debate, I believe I would ahve felt that way if Romney got his butt kicked, as all I ever really want to see is the candidates able to address issues and each other with a minimal filter.

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Author: warrl Big funky green star, 20000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 106879 of 137228
Subject: Re: Funny Fallon Video Date: 10/5/2012 3:48 PM
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Right. Which was more bad planning than anything else. He had a way too aggressive agenda, and would have had to have a very heavy moderating hand, preventing much serious discussion or back-and-forth, in order to get to it. Much better to err on the side of not getting through everything on his list. I would like to think that the take-home message for the future would be to have a less-aggressive agenda and allow the banter to go on as long as it doesn't become a talking points battle. But again, since left-wingers are looking to blame the moderator and format for 0bama not winning, that probably won't happen.

I don't even necessarily agree that it was bad planning.

If he had looked up at the candidates and said "Gentlemen, we still have half an hour, but I have no more questions for you", THAT would have been bad planning.

Far better to have plenty of material and then not use all of it. Particularly if he weighted the more-important parts (however he would determine them) toward the front.

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