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Hawkwin: I got to watch Carville et. al. to a person say Obama lost the debate.

Carville is the best the Democrats have (and better than anyone the Republicans have). If he's conceding victory, it means he has judged that it was so decisive that it is better to take your lumps and acknowledge it than to try to spin. Carville isn't infallible, but I wouldn't question his political judgement.
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