Message Font: Serif | Sans-Serif
 
UnThreaded | Threaded | Whole Thread (11) | Ignore Thread Prev | Next
Author: redbaron7 Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 186  
Subject: Re: Any pros around here? Date: 1/7/2003 5:03 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll Report this Post | Recommend it!
Recommendations: 0

Hey, go for it. You have nothing to lose by throwing in your resume.


That's what I was thinking :-)


I work for the government, not a consultant. And I'm a hydrologist (with a degree in geology) but I have known a few consulting geologists and I've applied to a few private firms.


USGS? Where?


Pay--everything pays less than IT. Why fiddling with a computer pays so well, I don't know (not that I'm bitter or anything... :-))


I don't know there was a Classified Ad in the jobs section in the newspaper from someone claiming to earn $5000/week, and they wanted 5 people to do the same. Doubt that was the kind of IT I do :-) lol

I think IT is changing. Paying good money for good people is one thing, but it is becoming a commodity and computers *should* be easier. As soon as they become easier, loads of "engineer" positions are replaced with loads of "skivvy" positions. (think of any other new technology - trains, cars, etc. the early workers were more skilled relative to everyone else, then the jobs became easier with less training requirements)


Generally, one important thing is writing skills. You'll probably be writing reports, proposals, etc. (Well, this *should* be important. In my previous job I reviewed reports and plans from engineers and landscape architects. I never saw a single one without errors. Some of those I'd have been embarrassed to have my name on. A couple were so bad I simply sent them back--I just couldn't make sense of them!)


My written English isn't what it used to be, but is a lot better than what I often see. Of course I'm surrounded by a load of Colonials who don't know how to spell "colour", pronounce "tomato", and think "the house is lighted" is good English. :-)


Consultants also want more business, so they're looking for marketers. Do you have contacts from your previous work? Or some ideas to bring in more business?


Not really. The previous company I worked was a seismic exploration outfit. I worked on the inhouse software (and tended to specialise in the more geophysical aspects - I found it more interesting, and it was an efficent use of expertise by my bosses). The company I currently work for are more software library orientated. So they're more likely to sell to this company that is advertising (a civil engineering outfit) than the other way around!



They don't want to have to teach or train you. Don't bother telling them you're a fast learner. They don't want a fast learner--they want someone who's already learned, who can hit the ground running (which no one can do--this is a totally unrealistic expectation [not that I'm bitter about this, either]--so just fake it).


Thanks. I guess one problem would be if I was called to interview and they started dropping buzzwords - even in geophysics. Sure, I know a lot of techniques, but not necessarily the latest sensor product name / whatever.


And emphasize anything unique you could bring to the position. Assume everyone has the same qualifications you do, and find something that pushes you over the edge. Figure out how your previous IT experience can benefit this position and company.


Err, developing new tools unique to our requirements...


Finally, it's been my experience that geo/hydro/CE employers like the old-fashioned, chronological resume best. I'd recommend you stick with that (which isn't bad, since it puts your geo degrees--what you want to emphasize--first). You can still tweak your experience to emphasize the geological angle, and of course go into more detail in your cover letter.


So more like what I'd call a CV? I can do that!

Thanks,

RB
Post New | Post Reply | Reply Later | Create Poll Report this Post | Recommend it!
Print the post  
UnThreaded | Threaded | Whole Thread (11) | Ignore Thread Prev | Next

Announcements

Foolanthropy 2014!
By working with young, first-time moms, Nurse-Family Partnership is able to truly change lives – for generations to come.
When Life Gives You Lemons
We all have had hardships and made poor decisions. The important thing is how we respond and grow. Read the story of a Fool who started from nothing, and looks to gain everything.
Post of the Day:
Macro Economics

Looking at Currency Ratios
What was Your Dumbest Investment?
Share it with us -- and learn from others' stories of flubs.
Community Home
Speak Your Mind, Start Your Blog, Rate Your Stocks

Community Team Fools - who are those TMF's?
Contact Us
Contact Customer Service and other Fool departments here.
Work for Fools?
Winner of the Washingtonian great places to work, and "#1 Media Company to Work For" (BusinessInsider 2011)! Have access to all of TMF's online and email products for FREE, and be paid for your contributions to TMF! Click the link and start your Fool career.
Advertisement