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Author: CVSUSN Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 137206  
Subject: Hope And Change Date: 10/14/2012 11:49 AM
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Here's hoping this comes true because it gives us supportable, rational change:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/12/Obama-Clinton-...

There is no love lost between Obama and the Clintons, and they could mutually destroy their political futures in the days ahead. Team Obama could destroy Hillary Clinton's 2016 prospects by scapegoating her for the Libya attacks. But Hillary Clinton, by potentially resigning or pointing to evidence that implicates Obama and Biden, can just as easily torpedo Obama's chances at getting reelected.

Mutually assured destruction. A pipe dream? Too much reliance on hope?

This story isn't going away. It is goo. Every time they try to rid themselves of it, the goo sticks somewhere else. Funny. It always sticks to the administration. Specifically, the White House and DoS. Trying to blame the intel community isn't going to work.

The following is only an educated guess on how the emergency communications process works from the ground up. There is no blame here but within the White House and DoS.

DoS Ops center receives a direct call from the consulate. With the ambassador there, the embassy in Tripoli would be bypassed. The line would be kept open. Land line? Cell phone? Radio? Encryption or open line? The Ops center will make at least two or three calls. NSC staff, DoD Ops, and Hillary. Hillary will call Pannetta and Tom Donlan, the National Security Adviser. One of the three, probably Hillary or Donlan, would then call President Obama. One of the first topics at hand would be intelligence. The focus would be on tactical intel. What's the threat? Capabilities? Host nation support? Nearest DoD/CIA assets? They'll discuss the tyranny of time and distance getting adequate assistance in time remaining.

It's after the initial attack concluded that the strategic questions will be asked of intel, "Who? Why?" But the intel would be shared across the board. All would be in the know. If the video was claimed as the reason for the attack by intel, they'll discover who rather quickly. It's quite certain, it wasn't the folks on the ground nor was it within DoS if one is to believe spokesmen. Was it an analyst? What was the basis? Did it mesh with what was occurring on the ground? What was reported? Sounds like intel was pretty pi$$ed at comments coming from the administration.

If DoS professionals and the intel community are not involved, I'd say the goo primarily sticks to Obama, Hillary, and Donlan. Watch closely, folks. It's going to get reaaaaal interesting.
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Author: TMBFAverageJoe Big funky green star, 20000 posts Top Favorite Fools Top Recommended Fools Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 107516 of 137206
Subject: Re: Hope And Change Date: 10/14/2012 12:41 PM
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I give it ONE WEEK until Bill says what he really wanted to say at the Democrat convention a few weeks ago. Once that's off the table, there's going to be some interesting DONKEY-ON-DONKEY violence in late October.

~aj

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Author: CVSUSN Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: 107522 of 137206
Subject: Re: Hope And Change Date: 10/14/2012 4:09 PM
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Joe,

It may be shorter than a week. Following is Axelrod this morning:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/330358/axelrod-throws-s...

He's so FoS, his eyes are brown. Denying responsibility. It's absurd and I have enough faith in Americans that they'll see right through it.

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Subject: Re: Hope And Change Date: 10/14/2012 6:42 PM
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Well, the Intel production side of this has the initial Gists, Analyist input(s) and not a few Reports out to the product consumers.

I understand a Drone was overhead also.

This thing has a lot of substance which, if Con gress has any proper Guts, will be revealed.

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Subject: Re: Hope And Change Date: 10/14/2012 11:30 PM
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"This story isn't going away."

I know you are incapable of realizing this, but this story doesn't exist outside of the nutjob echo chamber.

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Subject: Re: Hope And Change Date: 10/15/2012 9:03 AM
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Maybe they could just play this video in lieu of a town hall debate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWVL7TptQ24&feature=playe...

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Subject: Re: Hope And Change Date: 10/15/2012 9:09 AM
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I know you are incapable of realizing this, but this story doesn't exist outside of the nutjob echo chamber.

So the death of an American ambassador from a terrorist attack and the administration's failure to address the lack of security at the consulate is a non-issue? Give me a break!

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Subject: Re: Hope And Change Date: 10/15/2012 2:39 PM
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folgore,

A bit of unasked for friendly advice. Unless you're in the habit of conversing with what you're about to flush in the morning, put the idiot on ignore.

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Subject: Re: Hope And Change Date: 10/15/2012 6:32 PM
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"So the death of an American ambassador from a terrorist attack and the administration's failure to address the lack of security at the consulate is a non-issue?"

I didn't say that.

Have fun beating up your strawman.

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