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http://www.opm.gov/retirement-services/publications-forms/pa......


Not sure what your link says (can't seem to get to it right now) but I pay a substantial amount toward my insurance. There are many options available to government workers, some of which are low cost and some of which are high cost. Working overseas I have different requirements than someone working in the states so obviously I'm going to pay more but most federal workers I know pay about the same as the contractors. I was a contractor for 30 years before becoming a federal employee and most of the companies I worked for were about 50/50, which seems to be about what I pay now.

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Not sure what your link says (can't seem to get to it right now) but I pay a substantial amount toward my insurance. There are many options available to government workers, some of which are low cost and some of which are high cost. Working overseas I have different requirements than someone working in the states so obviously I'm going to pay more but most federal workers I know pay about the same as the contractors. I was a contractor for 30 years before becoming a federal employee and most of the companies I worked for were about 50/50, which seems to be about what I pay now.

Calabogie
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Well the federal link said they pay about 25 percent of whatever plan they chose and I believe it said it included family.

States were even more generous, paying all of it to just a very small percentage.

As an employer I pay it all for the union and for the office staff all of it, but with much higher deductibles, that we self-insure for.

Thanks for your input.
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States were even more generous, paying all of it to just a very small percentage.

oops make that
States were even more generous, paying all of it to the employee just a very small percentage.
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Are the poor subsidizing this?

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No the middle and upper class are...the poor are barely paying enough in taxes.
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Are the poor subsidizing this?

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No the middle and upper class are...the poor are barely paying enough in taxes.
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Respectfully, I would say you are wrong

They just do not know they are, and the bill has not come due

The poor ARE subsidizing it. Once the money starts going out to pay the debt, because we start no longer having borrowers, they will pay, and the price will be terrible for them.

The are subsidizing it big time, on credit. No one is paying today.

The middle and upper class can not afford to pay. No one can.

Fortunately for every dollar we spend the government gets back 23.72, so we should all be rich in no time

Anyone believing what is going on can possible end well, is kidding themselves big time, Just as the thought that anyone is paying for what we are doing is delusion. The rich and middle class are certainly paying for a lot, but not near enough, that is why we are just printing a lot of money, and borrowing a lot more.
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My husband pays 1/3 the cost of health insurance for the two of us as a SC state employee/retiree. We typically paid 1/5 to 1/4 the cost as employees of businesses.

My son, a MA public school teacher, was paying $100/month for single person's coverage a few years ago and says it's gone up considerably since then.

Don't confuse the great deals that federal and some big city workers get with the deals that most govt workers get.
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My husband pays 1/3 the cost of health insurance for the two of us as a SC state employee/retiree. We typically paid 1/5 to 1/4 the cost as employees of businesses.

My son, a MA public school teacher, was paying $100/month for single person's coverage a few years ago and says it's gone up considerably since then.

Don't confuse the great deals that federal and some big city workers get with the deals that most govt workers get.
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The newer employees aren't getting those deals, if at all (if they get classified as a permanent sub or temporary), but I do believe the older ones are, wherein lies the problem.
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Not much, if anything at all.

Really? What do you consider the upper limit of not much?
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