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Author: heihojin Big red star, 1000 posts Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 1443  
Subject: Re: texas hold 'em Date: 1/28/2001 4:59 AM
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I couldn't find Fundamentals of Poker at any of the bookstores around here so I got Lee Jones book on low-limit hold'em instead.

Lee Jones' book is also very good. Lee Jones posted a couple of times in the board's early history, but we haven't seen him around here lately.

Probably Sklansky's "Theory of Poker" or Sklansky and Malmuth's "Hold'em for advanced players"... I'll bet you've studied both of them so which do you recommend? Or do you have another one in mind?

Both are books are essential reading, if you are serious about becoming a winning player. At this stage, though, you may not be ready for either of them. I bought them before I was ready, and only later did I realize just how little I understood them. I'm not saying this to be mysterious, I'm being brutally honest. You probably don't have the experience necessary to determine when the sophisticated tactics in Sklansky & Malmuth's (S&M's) Hold'em Poker for Advanced Players should be applied. I know I didn't, and I had those books from the outset of my Hold'em career.

I would highly recommend reading Lee Jones' book a couple of times, from cover to cover. The tactics he recommends are solid tactics for low-limit games. He differs somewhat from S&M, but at the $3-$6 limit we're talking differences of pennies in expectation.

Before reading any other books (besides Malmuth's and Loomis' Fundamentals of Poker), I would recommend playing a minimum of 100 hours at the $3-$6 limit. I would also encourage you to begin keeping strict, detailed records very early, if you are serious about becoming a winning player. These records should contain the following information, at a minimum:

1. The date and time you started the session.
2. The date and time you ended the session.
3. The casino played at.
4. The game and limit, including the table number.
5. The amount you won or lost.

Also, you should include any notes you want to make, or insights you had about the game, or observations about other players, etc. The table number is important for tax reasons. Record-keeping is important not only for tax purposes, but it helps you be brutally honest with yourself about how you are doing. The vast majority of Poker players are self-delusional when it comes to how they are doing, and you can't lie to yourself when the numbers are staring you in the face. Furthermore, although your Poker career is off to a good start, understand that $20 an hour is a highly unrealistic expectation for $3-$6 Hold'em over the long run.

For your next reading assignment, only after playing about 100 hours of $3-$6 Hold'em, I would recommend David Sklansky's Hold'em Poker. Although this is his "introductory" book, it contains an introduction to a number of concepts that will seem quite sohpisticated. Without the prerequisite experience, you may lack the judgement necessary to determine when to apply these concepts. For example, when I first started I thought that it was correct to bet every "gut-shot" draw I had, because Sklansky specifically mentions gutshots in the chapter on semi-bluffs in Hold'em Poker. That cost me a significant amount of money until I caught the hint otherwise.

I would only begin reading Sklansky's The Theory of Poker and S&M's Hold'em Poker for Advanced Players after you have played for a couple hundred hours at the $3-$6 limit, and after you thoroughly understand the tactics in Lee Jones' book, Winning Low-Limit Hold'em. Gotta crawl before you can walk, and either way expect to fall down. A lot.


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