I do wish the right wing true believers understood that those of us who take a radical pragmatic view of economics and the world are not "liberals." Here's an example that is loosely related to some of the issues about helping the elderly, with financial implication.As a debate tactic - I think it's called "muddying the waters" or "poisining the well" or some such. Over time you repeat statements making your opponent appear to be a stupid fat-head, equating the term "liberal" with that stupid fat-head motif you've been laying, and then when it comes to the debate all you have to do to negate their side of the argument is to accuse them of being a "liberal" ...And the fact that most of the "conservative" commentators are habitual liers doesn't seem to matter, because they've turned "liberal" into a pejorative.- David
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