I don't believe anyone is claiming the first definition, only the second. But I'll bite...how do you define "faith"?For me it is the belief in something you can't prove. Simple as that. As I have stated before (over on AF, I think) that means I have "faith" in the scientific method. I can't PROVE it will always work, I have faith it does. Someone once tried to play semantics with me and said that I had "confidence", not "faith". In this context it is the same thing, IMO. However, I believe this faith (or confidence) is well-founded because it produces testable, tangible, repeatable results. It's not based solely on the writings of superstitious primitives who knew little of the world around them (other than it was scary as he|| to them).Actually, my understanding of faith is pretty close to yours. It is believing in something you can't prove, but is BASED on data and reason. So why do you think some AFers objected to you using the term "faith"?BTW, it was Samuel Clemens who described faith in the first example.
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