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Subject: Re: Educational Philosophy Date: 4/18/2012 10:15 AM
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I don't go quite that far. I think the Labor Movement prevented a serious Communist element from taking hold. Regardless, humans are motivated by the desire for control and unions are just another tool toward that end.

I hadn't thought of it that way before. The teacher's union and the communist party, both entities selling a great vision for humanity, both devolving into a power grab for its members.

What is a teacher's primary task? "Here's the textbook, we have to get through it by the end of the year."

For the most part I think this is more of a feature than a bug. For the most part, defined curricula are pretty reasonable. Knowing what "should" be done and having a broad range of teachers over a large area making an honest effort to get that done is the prerequisite for relatively inexpensive but high quality education. As is all standardization, it is a method to mass produce an excellent product rather than having everybody "roll their own" at home.

<iTeachers have become the beneficial owners of the system.

This is the problem. If McDonalds had a monopoly on selling lunch, and further, you were declared truant if you didn't go to McDonald's for lunch 5 days a week, and further in most states you had to jump through hoops to be able to "home feed," you can be sure McDonald's would be a very different operation. Just look at school lunches or the old-style concessions on toll roads for hints of what it would look like. Bland food, lackadaisical service, and higher prices.

The great tragedy is that the poor and uneducated, who should gain the greatest benefits, are often the most shortchanged.

Definitely one of the tragedies. The other is that the same resources which could be doing a much better job in a market driven competitive system are doing a lackluster job for the vast majority of Americans. I probably had about as good a public education as you could get, but my first days and weeks at Swarthmore College it was as though the scales were removed from my eyes. THIS is education, I thought. Now of course Swarthmore has pretty good students, that's probably part of the difference.

Poor and uneducated parents lack the time/ability to recognize the lack, and hence address it later if at all.

And yet you find them demonstrating and working towards better schools in New York City. And you find the educational establishment, fighting them at every step of the way to keep a stranglehold on the money spent on education coming their way. I think they are the hardest hit, but I'm not sure they don't realize it.

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