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Subject: Re: Dairy - mixed bag Date: 11/14/2013 7:23 PM
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I have found steady sources milk...Trader Joe's soy pitas with wheat...

ThyPeace - you might want to reconsider the use of isolated soy protein products, goods that use them (burgers/bars/ice cream/baked goods/cereals et al), soy powders, protein shakes, other processed forms of soy and soy milk.

There is some evidence that these versions of soy, with the isolated soy isoflavones, can contribute to reduced thyroid function. The two main soy isoflavones, genistein and daidzein, inhibit thyroid peroxidase, an enzyme that's necessary to make thyroid hormone.

This appears to be less of an issue with the fermented versions of soy, such as tempheh, tofu, natto and miso.

People who are iodine-deficient are also more likely to have issues, as are those that consume large quantities of soy products thruout the day. Some general info here:

When I was marathon training and eating a mostly vegetarian diet, I found it easy to get caught up in soy milk, soy-based nutrition bars, soy burgers, soy yogurt, soy cheese, soy protein isolates in cereals, soy protein powder shakes and the like.

It can end up being too much. My race performances/energy levels started taking a hit a few years into that. There were other issues too, so I can't state with absolute certainty that soy contributed 100% to the issue, but these days I choose to stick to fermented versions and don't use soy protein powders or anything that includes soy protein isolates in the ingredient label. It's a recommendation that my naturopath endorses too.

The typical healthy Asian diet that includes soy products does not include those sorts of products. That's an American phenomenon. They are more likely to include tempheh, tofu, natto and miso. They are also more likely to eat saltwater seafood, seaweed and sea vegetables, which are a good natural source of iodine and help counteract any effects of soy.

As alternatives, you could try almond, hemp or rice milk instead of soy milk, if you wanted. You can even make your own almond or hemp "milk".

Goat milk is amazingly expensive.

Hey, time to buy a goat! :)

g, d & r
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