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Author: joetangerine Big red star, 1000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 1263  
Subject: Re: Scriptural Nativities Date: 12/7/2001 12:43 PM
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I think there are other proofs that Jesus was not the "baby in the manger" when the wise men arrived.

First read the whole chapter of Matt 2.

First the wise men say they in verse 2, ""Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east[2] and have come to worship him." NIV

Then read verse 7, "Then Herod called the Magi secretly and found out from them the exact time the star had appeared." NIV

Now read verse 16, "When Herod realized that he had been outwitted by the Magi, he was furious, and he gave orders to kill all the boys in Bethlehem and its vicinity who were two years old and under, in accordance with the time he had learned from the Magi." NIV

So, it is safe to say the Jesus could have been at least 2 years old when the wise men visited him.


As far as whether these wise men were used by Satan or agents of God. Let us keep this is mind verse 1-2, "After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi[1] from the east came to Jerusalem and asked, "Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east[2] and have come to worship him." These men were looking for the King of the Jews." NIV The wise men had come to worship teh King of the Jews.

Could these "Magi" or wise men from the East have been actually Jewish disporia descendants that had come to worship the King? The people of Israel had been carted off to present day Iraq many generations before (times of pre-Daniel) and not all returned.

Think about it they would not be considered "Jews" in the biblical time sense if they had been intermingled with Gentiles. Just like Samaritans were not considered "Jews" but where of Jewish descent. Today there have been numerous examples of finding whole tribes of people as far away as the tip of South Africa, parts of India and also Japan that have "Jewish practices" and genetically have Jewish roots.

Just trying to add to the discussion.
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