I would just like to mention that I recently celebrated 32 years of continuous sobriety, which I doubt I could have done without AA. An important part of that is listening (really hearing) what those who are successful say. That requires lowering one's reluctance to change or try other methods or beliefs.

If someone can make it on their own, more power to them. My softer, easier way is to attend AA meetings on a regular basis, even today.

I wish success for each of you! Thanks KEZ for the posting!

gapfan :-)