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In both cases, the problem is, in my mind, somewhere on the 8th to 10th grade level. I don't object to it as a bonus problem. But as a barrier problem to getting to do a classroom activity that "everyone else" will get to do? I -really- don't think so.

ThyPeace, majored in geek. But not in 5th grade.

Depends on how "gifted" that gifted and talented program is that the student is in. Seriously. My third grader is "solving for X" in her math class. True those simple algebraic equations have only one unknown but she solves for x using the old tried and true hamburger balancing act dutifully showing all her work for the teacher. Sort of threw me the first time I saw her homework. So if they've got 3rd graders doing intro algebra I wouldn't be surprised if some of these GT programs are slapping innocent 5th graders upside the head with quadratic formulas.
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