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Author: Bonhoeffer Big gold star, 5000 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 195718  
Subject: In Defense of Morality Date: 12/20/2001 10:04 AM
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DaveinPhoenix's recent crusade to sexually liberate the CF board has brought to the surface of my mind an issue that i've pondered "off-and-on" for quite some time. This is not directly about sex, so never fear.

It is my experience that God generally set up the world to "make sense." For example, every time you add one and one, you get two. The sun rises and sets every day. Our bodies all work in a similar, predictable way, such that doctors can reliably diagnose and treat illness.

I think this order extends to morality. I believe that the things that are morally "wrong" are actually harmful to us, others, or our relationship with God. Likewise, i believe the things that are "right" are those things that improve our quality of life, especially by strengthening our relationship with God. For example, stealing is wrong for many reasons, but consider how it unfairly deprives people of what they worked to obtain, how it creates distrust and anger, and how it detracts from order and works towards chaos. Giving to charity is the "right" thing to do because generosity is beneficial both to the person who gives and the person who receives; it also fosters love and trust. This is the reason that most atheists are very moral people. You don't need God to recognize the harm of stealing and the joy of generosity. You DO need God to understand why we exist and what our primary goal in life should be.

What i am working towards in this post is the benefit of knowing why "X" is wrong but "Z" is right. Of course the main reason Christians strive to be moral is to grow closer to God. We glorify Him by striving to live as we think He wills for us to live. But i think there are reasons He wills for us to live a certain way, and i believe it is beneficial for us to seek to learn those reasons to the best of our ability. Of course His ways are not our ways, and no one can know the mind of God. I'm not implying that we can "crack the code" of how God set up the universe. But He gave us wonderful minds, i'm sure because He intended for us to use them for His glory. I think being able to defend our morality by some method other than "because God said so," is a noble endeavor.

The reason this topic came to mind is that DaveinPhoenix's sole argument thus far on this board has been "it's ok because God didn't say so." No matter to what degree most folks on this board are convinced that God has forbidden promiscuity in the Bible, Dave has devoted a great deal of time, energy, and study to being able to defend what he wants the Bible to say. In his mind, the Bible does not forbid promiscuity. No one is going to argue him out of that. So, the way i see it, the only way left to argue with Dave on this is to prove his way does not make sense, while God's way does make sense.

This is fairly easy, IMHO. We need only answer questions such as "What are the benefits of lifelong monogamy?" "What are the dangers of promiscuity?" "What harm can result from frequent, multiple sex partners" "What are the potential problems inherent to polygamy?" I think the answers to these questions will make it clear that Dave's way is not the best way, regardless of how well he can pick apart Hebrew and Greek to defend his position.

This post is already extremely long, so i will hold off on presenting my own answers to these quesions, for now. I would love for people who've been happily married for many years, and those who have experience with promiscuity, to share their thoughts. I'll post more thoughts later.
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