It's simply not plausible that the universe appeared out of nowhere/nothing. The chances of that happening, what with the magnificence of the universe and everything in it, is practically nill. But that's what atheists believe._______________________________---- I happen to feel as you do. I do not pretend however that there is an irrefutable logic to it. It is beyond my understanding that from nothing came something. I attribute it to a being, I call it God. Someone like Tele believes it always was and believes it is not from a being. He is sure he is right beyond a shadow of a doubt and believes he does not have faith in something beyond what he knows. People are funny. Whatever gets each of is through the night. The only one that actually makes sense is Art, each of us actually has no options and we believe something for no actual reason and get experience to reach some state we could have been started at without the help of experience but somehow need it to get there. It sounds odd to me, but it makes sense since we can do almost anything and argue any point and we really had no choice we were programmed that way. It is interesting to get folks views on it. Of course out of those views, only Catherine's really matters as she believes her actions impact her future where no one else carries that belief. tele is convinced that folks who believe in God are stealing his lunch money but so are folks who do not believe in God so it's really a push, and Art well, he is concerned that there will be no Ramen Noodles for lunch.
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