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Author: khrushchv Two stars, 250 posts Old School Fool Add to my Favorite Fools Ignore this person (you won't see their posts anymore) Number: of 14491  
Subject: Re: BA ( Boeing ) Date: 1/18/2013 2:08 AM
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knighttof3 said:

Unlike the $400 billion F-35 funded by the ever-generous US taxpayer; 787 does not have an unlimited amount of funds to correct major design flaws if there are any. Boeing will be toast.

Given that BA is a major manufacturer that makes products in the US (i.e. lots of jobs), using the observation that the gov't stepped in to help the auto industry, my guess is that BA would likely be in line for a bailout if things really get that bad. So I'm not too worried about BA going anywhere.

My guess is that the FAA will (in the short run) disallow the Li-Ion batteries so they will get replaced with a heavier and slower-to-charge version (I assume the current standard is NiMH but really have no idea). Or they'll disallow the Li-Ion batteries in "heavy load" electrical systems, creating a hybrid solution while the problem can be researched further.

More generally, the FAA is a real gem in the "gov't institution" space. They do a fantastic job of (at almost all costs) protecting passengers and keeping up a strong culture of ethics and responsibility. My prior is that they never would have approved the Li-Ion batteries for the 787 w/o solid evidence that they could do the job. But, now that there's "pudding" that can be proofed, they grounded all 787s while they work out a solution. I don't know about you but, that's exactly the kind of behavior I want to see from an industry regulator...they're open to new things (based on evidence) but if the evidence ever changes, so does their opinion.

Whatever happens with this electrical sub-system I don't think it will affect the ultimate success of the 787: The airlines really want these aircraft because of their flexibility (they are "just right" in terms of size and range for a multitude of roles) and their operating costs (they're much much lighter and therefore much much cheaper than anything else out there right now). Moreover passengers really like flying in them because of the reduced stress from the 5000 ft. cabin compression (compared to a 7-8000 ft. compression for most modern aircraft). Punchline is that the demand for the 787 is really big and Boeing is the only one selling ice cream.
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