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Let's assume for now that you're correct about what foreign polls show.

But try, just try for a moment, to apply a little bit of logic to these polls results.

Do you think it more likely that the foreigners of whom you speak want a stronger and more dominant American presence in world affairs, going forward?

I don't. I think the same foreigners who applaud Obama do so precisely because they resent America's "bigfoot" role in foreign affairs. In Obama they recognize someone who will weaken America in the international community, which would make them quite happy.

He questioned your facts, and then rather than provide those facts, you move on to more "thinkin".

Like those you seem to admire (BushCain), you don't need facts - just conjure up an ideology, and interpret events accordingly.

On what evidence do you conclude that the rest of the world wants America to go down? Or is it just "they're for us, or (mostly) agin' us, them evildoers" ideology?

"try, just try for a moment, to apply a little bit of logic"... what do most foreign states gain if America fails? Their economies are tied to ours, their security is tied to ours...

heck they even like our junk TV. Would hate to see that go down.
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