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Subject: Re: Poll: Totally OT: Asperger's Syndrome Date: 11/19/2012 2:09 AM
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< What's the magic number of people to transform thuggery into democracy? I have no idea.>

Read the laws. If you believe American democracy is "thuggery," move out of the U.S. Every country has laws and every country that provides services imposes taxes.

Democracy is messy. As Winston Churchill said, "Democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried."

Not appealing to an Aspie's black-and-white preferences, but true.

Wendy


The Founding Fathers recognized the problem with democracies and were rightly skeptical of them.

James Madison once correctly pointed out, “There is no maxim, in my opinion, which is more liable to be misapplied, and which, therefore, more needs elucidation, than the current one, that the interest of the majority is the political standard of right and wrong.” He also wrote, “… democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security, or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they are violent in their deaths.”

Thomas Jefferson wrote, “A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.”

John Adams wrote: “Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. It is in vain to say that democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious, or less avaricious than aristocracy or monarchy. It is not true, in fact, and nowhere appears in history. Those passions are the same in all men, under all forms of simple government, and when unchecked, produce the same effects of fraud, violence, and cruelty.”

Alexander Hamilton wrote: “It has been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies in which the people themselves deliberated never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity.” Hamilton also stated: “We are a Republican Government. Real liberty is never found in despotism or in the extremes of Democracy.”

This is why they set up a constitutional republic with limited and enumerated powers of government and very specific protections of individual rights.

Unfortunately, we don't follow our Constitution, so the Constitutional protections are not effective. Now we essentially have the mob rule that Jefferson warned us about.
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