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<<But the actual response is something like, "We can't figure out why these terrible things keep happening. Let's keep on going as before and hope that something spontaneously changes." >>


Someone oughta write a book on just what makes mass immigration attractive to liberals, despite the fact that exploding populations undermine many other political goals liberals have.


And they have been getting more extreme on the subject for decades.

A plausible explanation is that they hate and despise their working class populations so much that they are willing to cut off their noses to spite their face even with all the negative effects.




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Here's what I don't get: Crime goes up several multiples, all the increase being due to the immigrants. It seems like the rational responses to pick from are:
-Stop immigration
-Stop immigration from the places that send all these criminals
-Screen immigrants more carefully
-Admit only immigrants who want to live according to the standards of their new country (and not insist on the standards of the country that's so terrible they're fleeing it) and effectively educate them in the social construct of their new country
-Return criminals to the country of origin
-Some combination of the above

But the actual response is something like, "We can't figure out why these terrible things keep happening. Let's keep on going as before and hope that something spontaneously changes."
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<But the actual response is something like, "We can't figure out why these terrible things keep happening. Let's keep on going as before and hope that something spontaneously changes.">



Stupidity on an individual basis is upsetting when observed close up or from a distance. People make poor choices all the time and often pay a steep price for doing so.

When stupidity like this is shown across all the official branches of government, it takes stupid to an entirely new level. In this particular case, it means that innocent citizens are subjected to horrific crimes committed by those whom the government has willfully let into their country. The mistake is infinitely compounded by the absolute refusal to acknowledge said mistakes.

At what point does sanity return?



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When stupidity like this is shown across all the official branches of government, it takes stupid to an entirely new level. In this particular case, it means that innocent citizens are subjected to horrific crimes committed by those whom the government has willfully let into their country. The mistake is infinitely compounded by the absolute refusal to acknowledge said mistakes.

At what point does sanity return?



BG


What are the odds that all in government are stupid? Cannot discount the possibility of malice.
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"At what point does sanity return?



BG"

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Generally, after the money's gone.

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<<But the actual response is something like, "We can't figure out why these terrible things keep happening. Let's keep on going as before and hope that something spontaneously changes." >>


Someone oughta write a book on just what makes mass immigration attractive to liberals, despite the fact that exploding populations undermine many other political goals liberals have.


And they have been getting more extreme on the subject for decades.

A plausible explanation is that they hate and despise their working class populations so much that they are willing to cut off their noses to spite their face even with all the negative effects.




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At what point does sanity return?
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When we stop doing the same things and expecting different results.
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Here's what I don't get: Crime goes up several multiples... due to the immigrants. It seems like the rational responses to pick from are: - Stop immigration - Stop immigration from the places that send all these criminals... - Return criminals to the country of origin - Some combination of the above...

It is naive to believe that the Swedes don't know this.

But the actual response is something like, "We can't figure out why these terrible things keep happening..."

You are confusing Socialism with Globalism!

The problem facing Sweden - and the rest of Europe - is the Islamization of Europe and the USA. In the US, Trump made it an issue in the last election.


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For an idea of how this can play out, I recommend the novel "Submission" about how France acquires an Islamic government in a very few years:

https://www.amazon.com/Submission-Novel-Michel-Houellebecq/d...


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