<This part of your post does not go down well with me. IMO, it does not make sense to talk about a group being disadvantaged. It is better to say that the individual is disadvantaged because of his group membership. This might sound like hair splitting, but I think it makes for clearer thinking.>Yeah it might be hair splitting or it might not. I just think back to my situation growing up (being a women and being viewed with biases, as are we all, in one area of another). I never saw myself as disadvantaged but I certainly saw my group as being disadvantaged. Because of who I am I just worked to overcome the consequences of the bias. I knew I wasn't stupid, I knew I wasn't overly emotional. Was it tempting to use societies biases as an excuse not be achieve my personal goals? To some extent but I think excuses only work in the short term. But in the long run who loses more? Me or society. One could argue, in the big scheme of things, society does since it would lose my contributions. But I am much more focussed on my own needs. I am much more comfortable leaving society to change based on the contributions of it's indiviual members. I think society becoming better (quality of life in general) as a function of the abilities of its individuals to succeed. Not the opposite. It all starts with the individual. As a matter of fact, now that I think about it more, it's probably one of the reasons that we have so much trouble applying statistics to human populations. When we measure a bin of, say ball bearings for diameter, it is the diameter of the individuals that determine our perception of the population. But humans have a tendency to start out with the perceptions and then find ways to measure if they exist in the individuals in that population. Just a thought.MicheleMicheel
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